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mk12 said:
The latte liberal Twitterati don't give a shit about that. They are voting remain because it's the nice, caring, decent, inclusive thing to do. It doesn't really go much deeper than that.
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Why would you vote against sharing?!?
 
Bit more on the EU and migration:

Nor should we confuse open borders with a lack of national sovereignty. Consider the case of Spain and the EU. Until 1991, Spain had an open border with North Africa. Migrant workers would come to Spain for seasonal work and then return home. In 1986, the newly democratic Spain joined the EU. As part of its obligations as a EU member, it had to close its North African borders. The closing of the borders did not stop migrant workers trying to enter Spain. Instead, they took to small boats to cross the Mediterranean and smuggle themselves in. This was the start of the ‘migration crisis’.

Spain had exercised national sovereignty by keeping its borders open. Closed borders were imposed by Brussels.
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Of course, in this, all votes are absolutely equal.

No more wasted votes if your constituency is going the other way.

Every vote will count!

hmm, shall I call my recalcitrant relative daily mail reader and try to persuade them to vote remain? :)
 
civil war in the 'burbs! I just walked up my local town centre (in the shires, predominantly retired, Daily Mail reading demographic) when i noticed a bit of a commotion. A Brexit stall deliberately, and somewhat provocatively I have to say, set up right next to the regular Bremain stall outside the Asda, precipitating a shoving/shouting match which was highly entertaining, if a little unedifying. One elderly Brexitarian was wielding her umbrella in a most agressive manner and leaflets adorned with Union Jacks were blowing disconsolately down the street, unread. It was better than the footy anyway.
 
Kid_Eternity said:
Remain if only to say fuck you Farage, white van man and Britain First!
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The right wing have won this referendum whatever the final result: they have been allowed to occupy both sides of the 'debate'. A choice between the pro-austerity anti-working class status quo or voting for racists. A vote for leave is actually a vote for the working class, don't allow Farage et al to hijack that.
 
Rutita1 said:
This video is being shared all over the place.

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I've covered the earlier stuff before, its EEA membership and use of MRA's (mutual recognition agreements) to cut time - what you had before met our spec, without tinkering you'll still meet the spec) Australia just completed one with the EU in 2 years


17.00 mins in.+. though. The EU didn't spec the USB or even the serial bus, car mechanics don't (these days) need an imperial socket and metric socket set for when dealing with cars originating from different continents - why? COZ SPECS ARE AGREED AT A GLOBAL LEVEL, even for cucumbers, I can't think why Jean Monnet Chair holder, Professor Dougan would say different. But he can, because of the low level debate we have been subjected to for the last few months -still the great unwashed have learned there is a difference between the EU and the Single Market (and taught me free movement of people undermines the material aspirations of existing workforces).
 
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