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mk12 said:
How come?
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That seems to me to be saying that the SNP only exist because of the devolution battle - I don't think that's true of them at all.

UKIP might have a 'manifesto', but really, as a party they come ultimately come down to immigration and the EU battle (of which the former is mainly down to the latter). They've got fuck all otherwise really.
 
The question at the back of my mind is whether this mob will get all vindictive again if there's a vote to leave?

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mk12 said:
How come?
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Because the SNP is the party of government in Scotland and has been since 2007. Because there's no realistic opposition since Labour's collapse (which began to happen in 2011, btw, not after the referendum). And because the SNP has a platform that people in Scotland understand (as well as independence).
 
mk12 said:
The rationale for the SNP's existence seemed to go after the Scottish referendum. Doesn't seem to have done them any harm.

Edit: and UKIP's focus on immigration isn't just to attract 'swivel-eyed loons'. It's tapping in to the fairly prevalent views that immigration should be restricted and that all major parties are indifferent to the concerns of the ordinary British voter.
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It is lunacy, in terms of the economic damage full out would do. Short term potential dumping as we'd be one of the few markets that imports didn't have to agreed standards be they global or EU (our signature isn't on the bottom of those agreements for the last 20 years,the EU's is) and none of our exports would have the required documentation, even reckon in short order data from offices on the other side of the channel would need to be anonomised before being sent here.
 
stethoscope said:
UKIP might have a 'manifesto', but really, as a party they come ultimately come down to immigration and the EU battle (of which the former is mainly down to the latter). They've got fuck all otherwise really.
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But besides being an 'outsiders' party I don't think they need anything else. UKIP might explode, they've got the usual problems small parties always have - FPTP blocking their movement up, infighting between different leaders, etc.

But whatever the result in June I think there will be a populist, anti-immigration right-wing party in the UK, the last decade and a half have shown that (unfortunately) there is space for a party along those lines.
 
Is a working class uprising, however thats sposed to happen, contigent on an eu exit. Staying in in the eu doesnt make it less likely either. Unicorns or pamflet slogans. Fuck it
 
I think I'm going to vote for the Sheeple. ...and I love reading Goethe and hate the thought that should we leave the EU we will never be able to read Goethe again.
 
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