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BREXIT Crunch time (part 38) WTF is going to happen next?

Brexit crunch - WTF happens next?


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No Deal. Hard border in Ireland. GFA in shreds. Drug shortages. Food shortages. Fuel shortages. Power cuts. Army on the streets everywhere.
Sales of balaclavas up.
Oh joy.
Seventies again.
Anything else is betraying democracy. [emoji106]

It's like being run by a bunch of public schoolboys brought up on stories of emp.. Oh right yeah.
 
Cabinet meeting for 5 hours on this shit tomorrow. That's not exactly the first circle of hell, it's more a mezzanine floor. :thumbs:
 
I can imagine the Tigger conversations tonight:

'So, do you think we did the right thing tonight?'
- Oh yes, definitely. Sorry, actually, what did we do?
 
I can imagine the Tigger conversations tonight:

'So, do you think we did the right thing tonight?'
- Oh yes, definitely. Sorry, actually, what did we do?
Common Market 2.0 was the closest the lib dems and tingers could have got to what they really want, and they failed to vote for it because they're too pure to sully themselves with any form of Brexit. Personally I'm not sure it was a good option, but from their point of view it should have looked a good option. Because now the options are May's deal or crash out. If they're not regretting it already they will come to regret it. How did these incompetents get into such positions of power?
 
Common Market 2.0 was the closest the lib dems and tingers could have got to what they really want, and they failed to vote for it because they're too pure to sully themselves with any form of Brexit. Personally I'm not sure it was a good option, but from their point of view it should have looked a good option. Because now the options are May's deal or crash out. If they're not regretting it already they will come to regret it. How did these incompetents get into such positions of power?
I've predicted May will get her vote through at some point, only to see her fail to do so every time. In theory missing out tonight really should give her her best chance to get mv4 through. That's it, apart from Corbyn saying MPs should have another go at the indicative malarkey, they've failed to get anything through. They've given her the opportunity to say 'right that's it, it really is my shite or no deal, mega extension etc'. She still may not get it through, but tonight's shambles gives her her final but best shot. Cracking system. :thumbs:
 
I think that Soubry interview was one of the most fib-filled that I've ever seen:

Bole's amendment wasn't really his
TIG voted against Boles' amendment because it wouldn't have tied the PM's hand
Labour were to blame for PV not passing, because 15 Labour MPs didn't vote for it whilst a whole 15 Tories did

... were some highlights

had she been on the pop?
 
Common Market 2.0 was the closest the lib dems and tingers could have got to what they really want, and they failed to vote for it because they're too pure to sully themselves with any form of Brexit. Personally I'm not sure it was a good option, but from their point of view it should have looked a good option. Because now the options are May's deal or crash out. If they're not regretting it already they will come to regret it. How did these incompetents get into such positions of power?
Tactically really poor as well.

Voting for CM2 or CU last night wouldn't have made either of them happen, but would have given the EU a reason to offer a long extension to renegotiate a completely different deal.

But if there isn't a majority in parliament for anything then there's little point in an extension, which makes No Deal odds on...
 
Tactically really poor as well.

Voting for CM2 or CU last night wouldn't have made either of them happen, but would have given the EU a reason to offer a long extension to renegotiate a completely different deal.

But if there isn't a majority in parliament for anything then there's little point in an extension, which makes No Deal odds on...
If their tactic is to deliver a particular outcome. But their main tactic is to appeal to a constituency.

Although, I think even that constituency will be baffled by their choices.
 
I suppose she will go for MV4, if Bercow allows it, but assuming that fails, what are we left with? No deal, revoke A50 or ask for a long extension with a suitable plan attached (election or referendum).

I cannot see any likelihood she will revoke A50 and I just don’t think they will ride over the cliff edge of hard Brexit, so I guess we are looking at May addressing the nation to say she has been unable to deliver Brexit due to the current parliament not supporting it, and therefore she resigns and calls an election to allow her successor to come back with a new approach.

Whether the EU accept this and grant an extension or play hard ball and force A50 to be revoked will be interesting.
 
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