BREXIT Crunch time (part 38) WTF is going to happen next?
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cupid_stunt
Chief seagull hater & farmerbarleymow's nemesis.
steeplejack
trapped lbw for a duck
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I reckon she's just given up and tbh, I'm surprised she took the wretched job on in the first place. I doubt anyone else from any party would have done any better but fuck me, this was a poisoned chalice! If I were her now I'd do my best to fuck it all up for the next mug.
eatmorecheese
He's fallen out of the car again
Just popped in to check if things are still fucked and chaotic. Good. Parliamentary spasms and seizures to continue indefinitely 
AnandLeo
Tipple Ripple
Theresa May says she will step down if the parliament accepts her deal, leaving someone else to implement the deal she has agreed with the EU, that has so far been rejected by the parliament. What kind of dealership is that? It is similar to David Cameron saying, we will have a referendum to leave the EU, and if people vote to leave, I will step down so that someone else can steer the negotiation for leaving the EU, because I am not the fit person to lead the process to leave the EU.
The problem is, when the referendum was legislated in 2015, and held in 2016, there was no mention of how the UK will leave the EU membership, after 46 years of change in trading and doing business with EU; besides all the EU directives, bureaucracy, and political union amassed over a period of half century. There is a prudent objective to leave the EU with minimum damage to trade relations and economy, and maintain favourable social, economic, and industrial relations. That is what at stake in the current impasse. The geopolitical obstacle of Northern Ireland border is a tangible impasse. The indicative vote held in parliament was a futile ploy of the parliament. It had no efficacy of commitment or clarity of what was voted for. It was a nonchalant ruse. A more deliberated cross party negotiation for common objectives like a customs union and free trade is the decent strategy for the Brexit. However, neither PM Theresa May nor her hard-line Brexitiers are amenable to such a resolve. They are befuddled with hard-line politics. Neither Jeremy Corbyn has a passion for such a cross-party endeavour.
God save the United Kingdom.
The problem is, when the referendum was legislated in 2015, and held in 2016, there was no mention of how the UK will leave the EU membership, after 46 years of change in trading and doing business with EU; besides all the EU directives, bureaucracy, and political union amassed over a period of half century. There is a prudent objective to leave the EU with minimum damage to trade relations and economy, and maintain favourable social, economic, and industrial relations. That is what at stake in the current impasse. The geopolitical obstacle of Northern Ireland border is a tangible impasse. The indicative vote held in parliament was a futile ploy of the parliament. It had no efficacy of commitment or clarity of what was voted for. It was a nonchalant ruse. A more deliberated cross party negotiation for common objectives like a customs union and free trade is the decent strategy for the Brexit. However, neither PM Theresa May nor her hard-line Brexitiers are amenable to such a resolve. They are befuddled with hard-line politics. Neither Jeremy Corbyn has a passion for such a cross-party endeavour.
God save the United Kingdom.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I don't really buy that line. This that's been happening this week - an exploration of the range of options represented by the referendum result - should have happened more than two years ago, before even triggering A50. Some kind of compromise position could have been reached and agreed and implemented. May wanted her hard anti-immigrant brexit. That's why she is where she is.
I only hope that her vile deal is voted down again and she finally resigns. Only then can things move on.
not a trot
Well-Known Member
Something to fill out the day. Friday is always a fucker for finding something to do in the office.
redsquirrel
This Machine Kills Progressives
I can see this appealing to many. But do you believe you can separate the "economic" from the "political" union?
Dress down Friday too.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Brexit means brexit. Imagine you handed that in as homework at primary school, as your answer to the question 'what does brexit mean?' That's a guaranteed '0/10, see me' right there. Get yourself to the top of the cuntpile first however, and that insult to banality is apparently both a political ideology and a plan for the future of a whole country. Bizzarre.
Jeremiah18.17
Well-Known Member
Now she’s decided to cut the 2 of clubs in half and reckons she’s playing two aces!
gosub
~#
well, as chess moves go, its different.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
I see there will be a demo in Westminster tomorrow including Yaxley Lennon in the flesh.
Presumably there will be a lot of heavy breathing from his followers.
Presumably there will be a lot of heavy breathing from his followers.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
Has any law actually been changed to delay leaving tomorrow? I know two extension dates with stipulations have been offered, but does Parliament have to actually do something to switch the previous date off? We’re not going to get to 11:01pm tomorrow for someone to say “hold on, did we switch it off?”
They voted to change the leave date to 12th April or 22nd May yesterday in HoC I believe.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
That was what I was wondering. That would have been amazing. "whoops".
HoratioCuthbert
Deep seated inconsequence
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
HoratioCuthbert
Deep seated inconsequence
Aye it’s the EU running that show. There’s nae braw deal, just a raw deal.
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
No. The poltical and the economic development of the EU has influenced and changed and amended the other and, critically in this case, have become deeply intertwined. People on here have stated that many of the 17 million leave voters voted for this or that form of brexit. What unites them all is a desire to step away from that nexus. Put simply, the question of an economic union, but not a political union, was for the referendum in the 1970’s. At that point the separation of the two could be traced. 50 years on the two are so interlocked and self reinforcing that the idea you can leave the one but not the other is a nonsense. The idea we could be bound by economic laws that don’t impinge on politics is risible frankly.
Think they already did last week when May went to ask for the extension, May said this week in HoC departure date has already changed according to international law, think parliament ratifying it yesterday was last step needed to make it official.
Boris and only a few others probably, Rees-Mogg is following whatever the DUP do according to what he said yesterday at least. Most of the ERG still seem dead against it even if she is going. Still wouldn't seem to be enough to get it passed.
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