BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff

[PR1Berske]

Ironic that Spymaster is banned for one of their least trolling posts on this thread

(If you want to dispute a moderation take it to the feedback forum)

Oh give over. Spy made it very clear that he doesn't even like or care about BrewDog. He was on this thread to troll, make mischief, and goad. He even posted at one point that without him the thread had 'died'. It was all a game for him.

 

[Funky_monks]

I mean, it's hardly the most serious topic on the planet is it?

"Shit Brewery owners turn out to be money grabbing wankstains like lots of business owners"

And really, who gives a fuck if they use the "punk" moniker? Punk died almost half a century ago.

 

[Elpenor]

Oh give over. Spy made it very clear that he doesn't even like or care about BrewDog. He was on this thread to troll, make mischief, and goad. He even posted at one point that without him the thread had 'died'. It was all a game for him.

What are you on the thread for?

What is anyone on the thread for for that matter

 

[PR1Berske]

What are you on the thread for?

What is anyone on the thread for for that matter

Fair questions. I mean after twenty-odd years on the internet I do wonder what it's all been worth

 

[Saul Goodman]

Punk died almost half a century ago.

And, in fairness, punk was as shit as Brewdog beer.

 

[Funky_monks]

And, in fairness, punk was as shit as Brewdog beer.

Punk all inexplicably tastes of grapefruit?

 

[Funky_monks]

What are you on the thread for?

What is anyone on the thread for for that matter

Its a bit of a laugh, innit?

 

[Elpenor]

Its a bit of a laugh, innit?

Certainly a few posters play the joker.

 

[equationgirl]

Spynaster's description of what he does seemed to potentially breach the GDPR in places.

 

[dessiato]

Spynaster's description of what he does seemed to potentially breach the GDPR in places.

Which places? I don't see it.

 

[brogdale]

Spynaster's description of what he does seemed to potentially breach the GDPR in places.

Those were my thoughts but, after Spymaster took the time to explain himself in a PM to me yesterday, it seems that it is his clients that may or may not be compliant. He says that his companies merely develop and market the wherewithal for other businesses to contact potential clients. I hope I have related that information accurately. This post was prompted by his second, more widely circulated PM.

e2a: all that said, I don't think that was readily clear in Spymaster's interactions with editor

 

[Pickman's model]

equationgirl It's imo not fair to say serious things like that when someone can't reply - I think it'd show a nice spirit if you delete your post and dessiato if you could do the same

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

Ah, GDPR. One of the most commonly misunderstood bits of law out there

 

[brogdale]

Ah, GDPR. One of the most commonly misunderstood bits of law out there

I'm sure that's true, but from the little that I've read over the last 24 hours, it seems clear to me that in the instance that Editor related, Brewdog were the data handlers and, as such, were/are subject to the provisions of GDPR.

 

[equationgirl]

Ah, GDPR. One of the most commonly misunderstood bits of law out there

I was a Data Protection Officer for a while.

 

[lazythursday]

From my rudimentary knowledge of GDPR, you might be able to justify a single contact with someone as legitimate interest. What would not be justified is then continuing to hold that personal data and making repeated contact if they haven't consented to receiving the emails.

 

[Saul Goodman]

I was a Data Protection Officer for a while.

Then you should be able to point out where you believe he may be in breach of GDPR, and if you can't do that you should remove the post.

And posting it after he was banned from the thread was out of order. You knew he had no way to defend himself.

 

[freshapple]

I'm sure that's true, but from the little that I've read over the last 24 hours, it seems clear to me that in the instance that Editor related, Brewdog were the data handlers and, as such, were/are subject to the provisions of GDPR.

They may have just bought access to a mailing list?

 

[teuchter]

If a company or organisation's email address is displayed in public, it's not personal data, is it?

 

[beesonthewhatnow]

I was a Data Protection Officer for a while.

So, rather than making a general accusation at someone’s work - who can’t even reply - why not actually state where/how they’re in breach of legislation?

 

[ddraig]

So a 'master' of spam, not spy, MEGA LOLZ and groan

 

[Pickman's model]

If a company or organisation's email address is displayed in public, it's not personal data, is it?

A company or organisation is not a person.

 

[Saul Goodman]

A company or organisation is not a person.

Which you'd think an ex data protection officer might be aware of. Or perhaps they are, and just saw it as an opportunity to have a dig, without fear of reprisals.

 

[BusLanes]

Friends were visiting London and wanted to meet at the big one by Waterloo as apparently it is great for children and sure enough on a Sunday day it was heaving with parents and children.

Anyway now the spoons has opened next door I wonder if that'll kill it. The beer will be so much cheaper for one

 

[equationgirl]

So, rather than making a general accusation at someone’s work - who can’t even reply - why not actually state where/how they’re in breach of legislation?

Because obviously not all the exact details have been provided, so I cannot be as precise as you demand with my answer.

 

[equationgirl]

But in general terms, if the person's explicit permission has not been given to be added to a) a mailing list and b) for the specific purpose of being contacted about random marketing 'opportunities', then the GDPR may potentially have been breached.

There's also the possibility of c) their details being kept for an unspecified period of time which is not GDPR compliant.

 

[equationgirl]

equationgirl It's imo not fair to say serious things like that when someone can't reply - I think it'd show a nice spirit if you delete your post and dessiato if you could do the same

I think that ship has sailed, given the direction of the thread is now taking. Altering my post would not now make sense.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Because obviously not all the exact details have been provided, so I cannot be as precise as you demand with my answer.

Yet you were confident that enough details had been provided for you to post your doubts about the legality of their business model.

 

[equationgirl]

Yet you were confident that enough details had been provided for you to post your doubts about the legality of their business model.

I said 'potential breaches' in my original post. I then followed up my post with some more details.

I would liken my responses to a 'that doesn't sound right' and a follow up 'that doesn't sound right because of reasons x,y,z'.

 

[brogdale]

One thing's for sure, this latest twist in the thread convo has convinced me how little I understand of the modern world of business. Probably best if I just stick to snipping about how shite BD are from now on.