BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff

[Maggot]

PS You seem quite keen on using the word 'cunt' too. Fancy that!

Have you read your examples? Most of them are when he is quoting someone else saying 'cunt'.

Only used once since 2018. Hardly an epidemic.

 

[editor]

Have you read your examples? Most of them are when he is quoting someone else saying 'cunt'.

Only used once since 2018. Hardly an epidemic.

He used 'cunting' less than two years ago and seems happy to requote when necessary, Perhaps all the perceived offence vanishes then, not that it's up to him if women find it offensive or not.

 

[co-op]

Have you read your examples? Most of them are when he is quoting someone else saying 'cunt'.

Only used once since 2018. Hardly an epidemic.

I’ve stuck in him on ignore because when you’ve seen one editor tantrum you’ve seen ‘em all.

But he’s going to be pretty defensive, I get that, he was hectoring and bullying a female poster and repeatedly accusing her of “lying” for daring to disagree with him - and then telling the world that he was doing that all in the name of feminism, it’s not exactly credible.

Funny how the little toadies who are trying to make me the baddie in that encounter never noticed his obnoxious macho dickheadery.

 

[editor]

I’ve stuck in him on ignore because when you’ve seen one editor tantrum you’ve seen ‘em all.

But he’s going to be pretty defensive, I get that, he was hectoring and bullying a female poster and repeatedly accusing her of “lying” for daring to disagree with him - and then telling the world that he was doing that all in the name of feminism, it’s not exactly credible.

Funny how the little toadies who are trying to make me the baddie in that encounter never noticed his obnoxious macho dickheadery.

No idea why you're babbling on about now, neither do I care, but I've taken all the personal abuse I'm going to take from you, so we're now on mutual ignore.
You'll have to shout your big man insults to the sky now. Fuck off and goodnight.

 

[Dystopiary]

I asked a question, surely that’s allowed?

But we’ll done for backing up your chum.

I'm not backing up anyone. I've got my own opinions on the whole debacle, thanks.

little toadies

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[ViolentPanda]

James Watt. Is he the bloke who habitually wears a flat cap because he's ashamed of his shiny slaphead?

 

[Spymaster]

James Watt. Is he the bloke who habitually wears a flat cap because he's ashamed of his shiny slaphead?

His steam engine was pretty cool though. One might even say, revolutionary.

 

[brogdale]

James Watt. Is he the bloke who habitually wears a flat cap because he's ashamed of his shiny slaphead?

You know what he also hides under his perma-cap, don't you?

 

[Spymaster]

You know what he also hides under his perma-cap, don't you?

Mathematical equations regarding the SI unit of power?

 

[ElizabethofYork]

You know what he also hides under his perma-cap, don't you?

His sandwiches?

 

[brogdale]

Nah...

 

[Spymaster]

 

[Pickman's model]

Mathematical equations regarding the SI unit of power?

what's the cunty si unit of power?

 

[Pickman's model]

Have you read your examples? Most of them are when he is quoting someone else saying 'cunt'.

Only used once since 2018. Hardly an epidemic.

editor's far keener on the term than co-op as a simple search will show, about 30 times in the last six months alone

 

[editor]

Spoiler: Sexist filth from Brewdog

 

[ElizabethofYork]

Please stop posting horrible sexist pictures.

 

[editor]

Please stop posting horrible sexist pictures.

So at least you agree that he's a sexist pig. See, we're making progress!
Now we've just got you to accept that with absolutely zero evidence to the contrary, he also makes female workers feel uncomfortable in his presence.

 

[editor]

No surprise to see women unfavourably referring to Brewdog in this interesting article

“I’m ashamed, as a French woman, to see what’s happening in France,” she says. In her work, she has experienced real culture shocks when working with her home country. “I work with U.K. breweries and sometimes have to organize events for them in France. I find it extremely difficult that I have to explain why we won’t make a partnership with certains breweries or venues.” One partner didn’t understand why she refused to have an event take place at BrewDog’s Paris bar. “The matter is always brushed aside. They say, ‘It’s just rumors, and it’s not really important to pay attention to that kind of thing.’”

Pas Encore — French Women Are Sick of Waiting for Their Beer Revolution — Good Beer Hunting

“It’s just an idea, but could we think about writing a press release or an open letter? To officially ask for concrete actions, on behalf of women and breweries in need of training?” Last March, Garlonn Kergourlay, a brewing consultant and the leader of the French chapter of the Pink Boots Society,

www.goodbeerhunting.com

And from earlier this year

The move came following the BBC’s Disclosure programme which unveiled former members of staff at Brewdog saying its founder James Watt’s behaviour made them feel “uncomfortable” and “powerless”.

Speaking on behalf of Ladies that Beer, group founder and contributor Julie O’Grady told the drinks business: “The recent episode on the BBC brought again to light issues that we know are happening within the industry, and now others outside that arena are getting to hear about the behaviour of breweries’ of the beers they drink. This, hopefully, will enable them to make a conscious decision whether to drink that beer.”

Would you buy or sell a beer made by a bully?

The craft beer industry has voiced its feelings on discrimination and urges people buying and selling beer to make a 'conscious decision'.

www.thedrinksbusiness.com

 

[ElizabethofYork]

So at least you agree that he's a sexist pig. See, we're making progress!
Now we've just got you to accept that with absolutely zero evidence to the contrary, he also makes female workers feel uncomfortable in his presence.

Last time you posted that picture I told you I found it horrible. Why are you posting it again? Are you trying to intimidate me and make me feel uncomfortable?

 

[editor]

Last time you posted that picture I told you I found it horrible. Why are you posting it again? Are you trying to intimidate me and make me feel uncomfortable?

It's for apologists in serial denial like you. It unequivocally shows you their real attitude towards women, something you seem unable to accept.

Many women have come forward with their testimonies about how Watt has abused his power, behaved inappropriately in the workplace and made them feel uncomfortable., yet you still refuse to believe it.

Watt’s behavior was well known among staff, who created whisper networks to inform co-workers, several former employees told the BBC.

“We would make it a point to warn new girls and warn the hosts,” Katelynn Ising, a former BrewDog USA worker, told BBC reporter Mark Daly. “Hey, just so you know, James Watt’s coming to town. Just kind of leave after your shifts. Don’t really hang around. Don’t always do your hair and makeup that day. Don’t catch his attention.”

Dani Campbell, a former taproom manager at BrewDog’s Indianapolis outpost, said she was cautioned by a fellow manager not to be alone with Watt during a managers’ meeting to discuss the CEO’s upcoming visit.

“He said ‘Also, you’re James’ type, so if he walks into a room, you should leave the room. Don’t be in a room alone with him,’” she said, quoting a former co-worker.

Dylan Gray, a former manager of BrewDog’s taproom in the Franklinton neighborhood of Columbus, Ohio, said he based his staff’s schedule around Watt’s presence to minimize contact between the CEO and women who worked behind the bar.

“I would schedule a lot more men at nights when he was there,” Gray told Daly. “I would sit at the bar, behind the bar with female staff, so they wouldn’t feel uncomfortable. They had another male presence there, so it wasn’t just James.”

BBC Doc: BrewDog CEO Accused of Inappropriate Behavior Toward Female Taproom Staff; James Watt Threatens Legal Action

BrewDog co-founder and CEO James Watt is facing accusations of inappropriate behavior toward female employees and guests following his visits to the Scottish craft beer maker’s U.S. brewery and taprooms, according to BBC expose that aired Monday.

www.brewbound.com

PS I've put the picture behind a spoiler so you won't be 'intimidated' and made 'uncomfortable' by some promotional material from the company you defend here almost every day.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

It's for apologists in serial denial like you. It unequivocally shows you their real attitude towards women, something you seem unable to accept.

Many women have come forward with their testimonies about how Watt has abused his power, behaved inappropriately in the workplace and made them feel uncomfortable., yet you still refuse to believe it.

BBC Doc: BrewDog CEO Accused of Inappropriate Behavior Toward Female Taproom Staff; James Watt Threatens Legal Action

BrewDog co-founder and CEO James Watt is facing accusations of inappropriate behavior toward female employees and guests following his visits to the Scottish craft beer maker’s U.S. brewery and taprooms, according to BBC expose that aired Monday.

www.brewbound.com

PS I've put the picture behind a spoiler so you won't be 'intimidated' and made 'uncomfortable' by some promotional material from the company you defend here almost every day.

You're funny!
I haven't denied anything. I haven't refused to believe anything. And I've never defended the company. Unless you can prove otherwise? I'd be interested to see your evidence!

 

[editor]

You're funny!
I haven't denied anything. I haven't refused to believe anything. And I've never defended the company. Unless you can prove otherwise? I'd be interested to see your evidence!

Your denial is fucking weird, but I'll try again.

Based on the multiple testimonies from women who have come forward to say that Watt abused his power, behaved inappropriately in the workplace and made them feel uncomfortable, do you condemn his behaviour YES/NO?

And if not, why not?

 

[ElizabethofYork]

Your denial is fucking weird, but I'll try again.

Based on the multiple testimonies from women who have come forward to say that Watt abused his power, behaved inappropriately in the workplace and made them feel uncomfortable, do you condemn his behaviour YES/NO?

And if not, why not?

What denial?

 

[Spymaster]

What denial?

Indeed.

Thread's got very fucking weird.

 

[editor]

What denial?

Just answer the question please. It's really straightforward. Thanks.

 

[teuchter]

You're funny!
I haven't denied anything. I haven't refused to believe anything. And I've never defended the company. Unless you can prove otherwise? I'd be interested to see your evidence!

Maybe you have not read the special terms and conditions of this thread, which say that posting on it deems you a supporter, defender and active promoter of Brewdog and its directors unless you state unambiguously that you assume every allegation ever made against them, and any allegation made against them in the future, by anyone, is true.

 

[Pickman's model]

I believe that some of the allegations were part of the concerted smear campaign. I don't know about every single one. Nor does anyone.

i think this may have been where you've confused editor

 

[dessiato]

Indeed.

Thread's got very fucking weird.

Its been weird for a long time.

 

[Spymaster]

Its been weird for a long time.

I dunno. It's been shit for a very long time; since its inception really. But it's only occasionally been weird.

It's truly jumped the shark in the last 24hrs though. Even most of the most vehement anti-Brewdog headbangers are giving it a wide berth, thinking WTFFFF???

 

[ViolentPanda]

His steam engine was pretty cool though. One might even say, revolutionary.

He's pretty much let down by his latter-day namesake, who has a couple of decent beers to his name, plus an alcohol-free beer that tastes like Barbican (remember that? Fucking awful).