David Clapson
Well-Known Member
I reckon their wiki page needs updating with their workers' views.
BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff
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Raheem
Well-Known Member
Would need a Reliable Source, so best wait for it to hit the front page of The Times first.
seeformiles
Lost in the wood
Well said - although the point about HR is slightly naive. All HR departments IME exist purely to protect the company from damage or loss as their top priority. They espouse “values” but quite blatantly protect utter bastards at the upper end of management for whom these don’t appear to apply. Those who complained were spirited away with hush money, an NDA and 30 mins to say goodbye to workmates. The idea that they exist to protect staff is bullshit.
I'm only able to respond a bit generally (no time!), but a lot of smaller-scale and independent breweries never can their beer at all, and focus on what traditional brewers have done best historically -- distributing their beer to pubs in casks (which get reused!)
Beer from cask in pub tastes a lot better than from cans anyway, IME and IMO!
(Although during lockdpwn it was all about beer in bottles** for us
)**The bottles did get recycled though, tbf
Storm Fox
Trying the find the next noun to verb
Brewdog, to me, seem to have owners who have a tech company entrepreneur attitude to one of the oldest industries in the world.
From Wikipedia:
I can't see that being sustainable, as their supporters will move onto the next shiny thing as there is a lot of existing competition. Unlike the tech giants who have innovated new industries or at least made them popular.
From Wikipedia:
I can't see that being sustainable, as their supporters will move onto the next shiny thing as there is a lot of existing competition. Unlike the tech giants who have innovated new industries or at least made them popular.
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
"The next shiny thing" has already arrived. There are tonnes of craft brewers who are better, bolder, more sustainable, more open, less wankery, than Brewdog. They're an odd one to condemn from on high because they did shake up the beer market, they did introduce new and fresh ideas into craft ale, they opened a lot of doors. BUT, somewhere along the way they did the tech company thing, as you call it, by apparently locking themselves away into Planet BrewDog. I know from many articles and stories that Silicon Valley guys can't believe that analogue worlds exist outside their digital utopia, and they'll only think in terms of a post-government, post-tech, post-X world. BrewDog really does seem like that, they only see things their way, and by the sounds of the open letter, had pretty much the same consequence. Men at the top earning millions, poor sods at the bottom getting shafted, and what was a quirky new addition to the supermarket shelves has turned into a monster.
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
This one was funny too
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
Seems like there's a bit of US stuff from March that didn't make it on to this thread:
vinepair.com
vinepair.com
foodanddrink.scotsman.com
BrewDog Denies Discrimination Allegations After Firing Four LGBTQ Employees
Four former BrewDog employees who identify as members of the LGBTQ community say they were let go this week as part of a “change in culture."
vinepair.com
Can BrewDog Outgrow Its History of Alleged Discrimination?
BrewDog, a controversial Scottish brewery, has recently been under fire for accusations of bigotry against women and the LGBTQ+ community
vinepair.com
American BrewDog bar accused of sacking female, transgender and non-binary staff | Scotsman Food and Drink
A BrewDog bar in Indianapolis came under fire on 9 March, as former employees came forward to make the allegations about the sacking of staff. One employee ...
foodanddrink.scotsman.com
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
And a paper from the 2019 Drinking Studies conference with a wonderfully academic title:
fermenttherich.substack.com
Brewing a Neo-Liberal Empire: Intoxicated Masculinity, Anarcho-Capitalism and Pink-Washing in Brewdog's 'Business for Punks'
A long-form essay originally delivered at the 2019 Drinking Studies' Liquid Modernities conference in Bournemouth.
fermenttherich.substack.com
editor
hiraethified
Well, isn't this something.
In the past, whenever I've posted anything critical about Brewdog, there's almost always been a swift, dismissive and belittling response from their big fans here, who faithfully parrot their PR bullshit and insist that they're actually a brilliant company and a joy to work for.
And yet, today....
In the past, whenever I've posted anything critical about Brewdog, there's almost always been a swift, dismissive and belittling response from their big fans here, who faithfully parrot their PR bullshit and insist that they're actually a brilliant company and a joy to work for.
And yet, today....
pinkmonkey
2.4 hour party person
Give us a chance - I only just read it!
It’s a excuse for being cunts because they are carbon neutral, London living wage cunts
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
"we absolutely need you to be radically honest about this". Christ.
"our experiences are just as valid as theirs and we need the world to hear our voice too."
"To suggest that it is [a bad place to work] isn't just wrong, it's actually a bit demeaning, and a bit hurtful, to us."
More accessible version of the bosses' crytyping here: CryptPad
PR1Berske
Alligator in chains by the park gates.
Isn't it awful? "Hey fellow young people, you sound angry! And in a real sense, isn't anger punk? We love that you felt exploited, because that's passionate!"
Steel Icarus
we move
Brewdog are clearly utter cunts. Fuck them, and fuck the way they treat their employees . But you didn't know that and neither did anyone else on here until this. Hindsight's a wonderful thing. And I'm not sure there's been much "parotting of PR bullshit" or "insisting they're a brilliant company and a joy to work for", either
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
oh dear, there have been a few examples of how they treat their employees on this very thread, and yes there have been a gleeful gang parroting the PR, and don't forget the BuRgERs!Also, again, from 2011 Punk brewery just as sexist and homophobic as the industry they rail against
hitmouse
so defeated, thinks it's funny
I reckon there might've been a few indications before now. From a very quick search of the thread:
"Fiercely defiant"
Shame they couldn't put as much effort into looking after their employees and making sure they're happy at work, what with all the fat profits they're pocketing. Still, it's all punk rock maaaaaan!
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equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Steel Icarus
we move
Aye, and good. Haven't read much of the thread, I'm glad they're getting a shoeing.
Steel Icarus
we move
Now where's the fun in that?
Cloudwater are however getting beers sold in Tesco contract brewed by Brewdog.
elbows
Well-Known Member
BBC coverage:
Ex-Brewdog staff allege culture of fear at brewer
Former employees allege "cult of personality" in firm and claim "toxic attitude" to junior staff.
www.bbc.co.uk
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
The letter Brewdog have put out in response is truly appalling.
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