BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff
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Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Urban BrewDog shares pool?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
the most vocal opponents of the company should invest so they can get up at the agm and vent - in the same way that some people buy shares in other companies they oppose.Urban BrewDog shares pool?
klang
klang
can't think of a worst way to spend an evening than BD's agm.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i can, spending an evening listening to people pontificating on how awful they are. while adding nothing new to their analysis that they haven't said a dozen times before.
T & P
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Will there be free beer?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I'd be extraordinarily surprised if there wasn't.
klang
klang
one of the very few gigs I've played that didn't provide free beer (or a t least a few tokens) was the 500th anniversary of a brewery.
and yes, I was extraordinarily surprised.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Is it possible to purchase some shares and then transfer ownership of those shares to the urban75 server fund? Then, the better brewdog does, the better urban75 does, and also it would make the company more community-owned, which is what everyone wants.
By the way, brewdog is a scottish company, and I wonder if people think about how attacks on brewdog make Scottish people feel.
I look forward to someone anglosplaining to me, why it would be stupid for a scot to take offence at a load of people from bigger, less punk ethos orientated countries attacking members of the scottish business community.
By the way, brewdog is a scottish company, and I wonder if people think about how attacks on brewdog make Scottish people feel.
I look forward to someone anglosplaining to me, why it would be stupid for a scot to take offence at a load of people from bigger, less punk ethos orientated countries attacking members of the scottish business community.
T & P
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you're out luck. Brewdog shares aren't listed on any stock market. and the prospectus says they've still no intention to do so at this time.
that's one of the aspects of the Equity for Punks crowdfunding that's a bit dodgy. how they get away with still running the PLC like their privately owned company
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
shares have been periodically issued and sold at auction: Asset Match
true. once per year and at the approval of Brewdog itself. but Asset Match is not a stock market.
maybe. their prospectus does talk about corporate rather than individual shareholders so they can't be totally opposed to the idea. but they reserve the right to reject any applications. example given is rejecting any investment from a multinational brewery chain but "group who take the piss out of us" might not be welcomed.
bigger problem is Brewdog have never paid dividend and say they have no intention to do so - profits after distribution to staff / charities all to be reinvested in the business. so it wouldn't actively contribute to the server fund anyway.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
quite so, i found the information there and regret any impression i gave that it was a listing like aim or the lse.
actually I'm glad you posted that link. interesting that Asset Match shows last trading was 01/01/2019 at £15 per share
but the funding round launched this week is asking £25.15
has the value of the company really gone up so much in a year & a half?
if they'd sold these from the start as a £50 lifetime membership of a fan club that granted a discount in the store I'd have no problem with it. I was tempted back in the very first round years ago when I thought that's what the crowdfunder was. until I read into the details. it's dressing it up as an investment that rubs me the wrong way. feels too much like they're scam artists taking advantage of punter's ignorance of financial matters.
but the funding round launched this week is asking £25.15
has the value of the company really gone up so much in a year & a half?
if they'd sold these from the start as a £50 lifetime membership of a fan club that granted a discount in the store I'd have no problem with it. I was tempted back in the very first round years ago when I thought that's what the crowdfunder was. until I read into the details. it's dressing it up as an investment that rubs me the wrong way. feels too much like they're scam artists taking advantage of punter's ignorance of financial matters.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
tbh i think that the market sphere they operate in is likely to prove more volatile than they like. sometimes products enter the market and they do well for a spell and recede and are seen no more - like caffrey's in this country. it was launched with a great splash in the 90s and now i can't think of a pub which serves it. maybe a few in kilburn and cricklewood. the way that beer's going, the brash and overhopped style won't last forever and tbh that's what i associate brewdog with (albeit i've only really tried their low alcohol one). i don't think their shares will prove a good investment and i will be interested to see how they're doing in a year's time. £25/share? too dear imo.
nick
Pleomorphic Adenomas R us
Neither have Berkshire Hathaway and a lot of people seem to think that they are a good punt.
But your point is well made, from a corporate governance P.O.V, there appear to be a lot of questions over it - cf the Private Eye article I posted up thread. And the asset match thing means they aren't exactly liquid (says me who got burned by Woodford)
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
for years i had a caffrey's glass i'd had to drink seven pints to get
I've never had a pint, it looked very off putting. Like a bastard child of Guinness and lager.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
i quite liked it at the time.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
If I buy some shares, and the leave them to the urban75 server fund in my will, and then I die, what happens?
We have a party.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Wearing a cagoule, and an oversized peaked cap with the NCP enamel badge on it.
Steel Icarus
we move
Sorry, typo.
How long did your totally NON for profit microbrewery last? I'm genuinely curious how sustainable it was in the end
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Nah, he's just a smeghead.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Drink Brewdog, save the planet
I won't even drink it TO save the planet. Over-hopped, & overpriced.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Perhaps you should ask yourself why there's no forest there already.
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