BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff

[brogdale]

I think it's fair to say that the deafening silence is a de facto admission that they've been wrong about this.

The thread can be closed now.

Oh, come on...the thread has previously dealt with these industry mag puff pieces about 'awards' from membership promotional schemes.
Surely even you're not that naive.

Anyway, this thread is actually about "Turning rebellion into money", not just Hitler's limousine.

 

[teuchter]

I think it's fair to say that the deafening silence is a de facto admission that they've been wrong about this.

Certainly it's notable that since that article was published back in August this thread went silent for months, save for ddraig's post implying that people who shop at Aldi are racists.

 

[equationgirl]

The headbangers on this thread do seem to be out of step with the general consensus.

Anyone who genuinely cared about workplace conditions would be heaping praise on companies that make an effort to change their ways.





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Well they only had seven employment tribunal cases between 2018 and 2020 (for things like disability discrimination and pregnancy related dismissal) so I suppose it's an improvement that they're apparently seeking to resolve issues through settlement rather than a legal process.

But I personally think that's a financial decision not a genuine desire to improve employee rights and conditions.

 

[Spymaster]

Well they only had seven employment tribunal cases between 2018 and 2020 (for things like disability discrimination and pregnancy related dismissal) so I suppose it's an improvement that they're apparently seeking to resolve issues through settlement rather than a legal process.

But I personally think that's a financial decision not a genuine desire to improve employee rights and conditions.

Any idea what the results of the tribunals were?

Can you link to them?

 

[Spymaster]

I can only find three. The one that we've already discussed here about the blind guy who one of the tribunal members disagreed with, one case that failed, and one that was withdrawn.

Mr R Meade v Brewdog Ltd (England and Wales : Breach of Contract : Unlawful Deduction from Wages), [2017] UKET 2200921/2017 | United Kingdom Employment Tribunal, Judgment, Law, casemine.com

Get free access to the complete judgment in Mr R Meade v Brewdog Ltd (England and Wales : Breach of Contract : Unlawful Deduction from Wages) on CaseMine.

www.casemine.com

Mrs L Watson v BrewDog plc (Scotland : Disability Discrimination), [2020] UKET 4113568/2019 | United Kingdom Employment Tribunal, Judgment, Law, casemine.com

Get free access to the complete judgment in Mrs L Watson v BrewDog plc (Scotland : Disability Discrimination) on CaseMine.

www.casemine.com

 

[equationgirl]

Any idea what the results of the tribunals were?

Can you link to them?

Do a Google search for 'employment tribunal decisions'. Some with withdrawn, which often indicates a settlement was reached.

 

[Spymaster]

Do a Google search for 'employment tribunal decisions'. Some with withdrawn, which often indicates a settlement was reached.

I did that. See above. I can only find one judgement against them. Everything else seems to have been dismissed or withdrawn.

 

[equationgirl]

I did that. See above. I can only find one judgement against them. Everything else seems to have been dismissed or withdrawn.

Look at the employment tribunal decisions database on gov.uk - withdrawn often means a settlement agreement has been reached but those are subject to an NDA and may not be in the public domain.

 

[Spymaster]

Look at the employment tribunal decisions database on gov.uk - withdrawn often means a settlement agreement has been reached but those are subject to an NDA and may not be in the public domain.

Yes, but not always. It can also mean they've been withdrawn for other reasons, such as on legal advice. And I can only see 2 withdrawn, 2 dismissed, and one successful. So only one judgemement in 5 against BD, and that was by a majority and not unanimous. What were the other 2 you mentioned?

 

[brogdale]

Yes, but not always. It can also mean they've been withdrawn for other reasons, such as on legal advice. And I can only see 2 withdrawn, 2 dismissed, and one successful. So only one judgemement in 5 against BD, and that was by a majority and not unanimous. What were the other 2 you mentioned?

Not much on this Saturday, then?

 

[Spymaster]

Not much on this Saturday, then?

Not at the moment. Got a shoulder of lamb in the oven and a dog on my feet, waiting for the hoards to descend.

 

[brogdale]

Not at the moment. Got a shoulder of lamb in the oven and a dog on my feet, waiting for the hoards to decend.

'ark at you; the running dog of capitalism...

a shoulder of lamb in the oven

much as I can afford to heat the old baked potato & beans (and crusty rye sourdough bloomer).

 

[Spymaster]

'ark at you; the running dog of capitalism...

much as I can afford to heat the old baked potato & beans (and crusty rye sourdough bloomer).

You're welcome to come round here. Bring a few cans ...

 

[equationgirl]

Yes, but not always. It can also mean they've been withdrawn for other reasons, such as on legal advice. And I can only see 2 withdrawn, 2 dismissed, and one successful. So only one judgemement in 5 against BD, and that was by a majority and not unanimous. What were the other 2 you mentioned?

I did the search, it gave me 7 results.

 

[Cerv]

is not all rosey for Brewdog the business.
they've shut for good the cider brewery & taproom in Bermondsey that they bought a few years back in 2018.

BrewDog’s Hawkes taproom shuts for good

BrewDog has called last orders at its Hawkes taproom in Bermondsey, south London, citing economic pressures.

www.morningadvertiser.co.uk

 

[equationgirl]

is not all rosey for Brewdog the business.
they've shut for good the cider brewery & taproom in Bermondsey that they bought a few years back in 2018.

BrewDog’s Hawkes taproom shuts for good

BrewDog has called last orders at its Hawkes taproom in Bermondsey, south London, citing economic pressures.

www.morningadvertiser.co.uk

That sounds like they're licensing out the cider recipe to a third party. I wonder if the site will become another brewdog location or if they will offload it?

 

[nastyned]

Ex-girlfriend of Brewdog boss James Watt cleared of criminal fraud

James Watt won a civil case against Emili Ziem but his lawyers offered no evidence in a criminal trial.

www.bbc.co.uk

 

[teuchter]

So in the court case in Scotland she declines to show up or defend herself, and is convicted of fraud.

Now he withdraws the case against her in the English court. He says it's because she's bankrupt, it's already been proven & there's no point pursuing it. She says it's because he doesn't have any evidence.

 

[PR1Berske]

Brewdog accused of ripping off name of much smaller product, reminding us of how heartless and profit minded they are for so-called punks

Jump Ship Brewing launches legal battle against BrewDog over name dispute

While non-alcoholic brewery claims to have produced a Shore Leave beer first, the brewing group has the name trademarked

www.insider.co.uk

 

[Cerv]

That sounds like they're licensing out the cider recipe to a third party. I wonder if the site will become another brewdog location or if they will offload it?

Seems like the latter. Brewdog leaving the unit entirely as unable to come to terms with the landlord over rent.

Last orders? A wave of closures hits London's booziest neighbourhood

Brewers on the Bermondsey Beer Mile are closing up shop — what’s going on?

www.thelondonspy.co.uk

ArchCo told the Spy it was “disappointed” it’d been unable to reach an agreement with Brewdog — but declined to detail what kind of rent increase it was proposing, saying the information was commercially sensitive. Likewise, a spokesperson for Brewdog said it wasn’t able to disclose the rent increase either.

maybe it'll become another Pret a Manger

 

[brogdale]

Brewdog accused of ripping off name of much smaller product, reminding us of how heartless and profit minded they are for so-called punks

Jump Ship Brewing launches legal battle against BrewDog over name dispute

While non-alcoholic brewery claims to have produced a Shore Leave beer first, the brewing group has the name trademarked

www.insider.co.uk

The genius of stealing genius marketing.

 

[teuchter]

A nice heartwarming story about two people finding happiness.

Doubt it'll stop the angry haters on here from finding something negative to go on about though!

Toff shares hilarious first date moment with Brewdog founder

The former Made in Chelsea star said that the 41-year-old “walked into a wall” on their first date, something Toff said she found hilarious

www.devonlive.com

 

[hash tag]

I believe they might be selling pints for under £2 in the next few days....still no incentive for me.

 

[brogdale]

I believe they might be selling pints for under £2 in the next few days....still no incentive for me.

people pay >£2 a pint for that stuff?

 

[dessiato]

A nice heartwarming story about two people finding happiness.

Doubt it'll stop the angry haters on here from finding something negative to go on about though!

Toff shares hilarious first date moment with Brewdog founder

The former Made in Chelsea star said that the 41-year-old “walked into a wall” on their first date, something Toff said she found hilarious

www.devonlive.com

I like Toff.

 

[baldrick]

What sort of tit arranges a date in his own bar?

I can't decide if it's desperation to impress or a sign of a total cheapskate.

 

[hash tag]

What sort of tit arranges a date in his own bar?

Brewdog drinker.

 

[Spymaster]

Apparently, as of December 1st, BD are the top 10 of Scotlands favourite employers.

You have to admire that, given the smear campaign by disgruntled employees that lasted at least a couple of years.

Proper genius.

 

[brogdale]

Scotlands favourite employers.

What?

 

[Spymaster]

What?

No.

Watt.