BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff

[AmateurAgitator]

It could potentially go a slight way to explaining his genius as a businessman if he joins the ranks of Elon Musk, Albert Einstein, Isaac Newton et al ...

 

[AmateurAgitator]

It will be very interesting to see how this case develops!

Kinda like the Heard/Depp trial?

 

[AmateurAgitator]

Honestly, I find it hard to believe that the women who've accused Watt of harassment would risk their reputation, future employment prospects and potential mental health unless there was something very much in what they're saying. Standing up to any (ex-)employer can be tough, and not without risk, but to someone with his money and social status can't have been easy.

Absolutely.

 

[AmateurAgitator]

I'm struggling to think of any UK brewery that has accrued so many recent, deeply unsavoury allegations of lies, sexism and bullying with a toxic workplace culture and one that makes female staff feel uncomfortable in the presence of the boss.

Neither can I think of any other company that has had the sheer volume of complaints, or one that spied on their staff, or one that made up fake trade unions or fabricated bullshit PR stories to try and capitalise on the covid crisis. Or one that regularly tries to silence their critics by bullying and legal threats.

But if - as some people keep insisting - they're simply no different to any other UK brewery, then why aren't we hearing endless recent stories about all these other dodgy breweries in the national and international press, week after week?

Spot on.

 

[DaphneM]

Spot on.

Heineken claims its business helps Africa. Is that too good to be true?

The long read: The Dutch beer giant likes to blow its own trumpet about the economic and social benefits it brings to Africa – but revelations of sexual harassment and low pay show a different picture

www.theguardian.com

https://movendi.ngo/news/2021/07/22/exposed-sexism-pervasive-in-craft-beer-industry/

 

[brogdale]

Heineken claims its business helps Africa. Is that too good to be true?

The long read: The Dutch beer giant likes to blow its own trumpet about the economic and social benefits it brings to Africa – but revelations of sexual harassment and low pay show a different picture

www.theguardian.com

https://movendi.ngo/news/2021/07/22/exposed-sexism-pervasive-in-craft-beer-industry/https://www.eater.com/2021/5/19/22444336/sexism-abuse-harassment-craft-beer-brewing-industry-ratmagnet

Whataboutery fail; Watt sort of wrong’un would plough half a mill of their own fortune into such an outfit?

 

[Spymaster]

This is outstanding stuff.

Jame Watt is actively looking for Scottish businesses to invest in and support. It's fair to say he seems to have learnt a lot from recent issues and is now a pillar of the community.

 

[brogdale]

This is outstanding stuff.

Jame Watt is actively looking for Scottish businesses to invest in and support. It's fair to say he seems to have learnt a lot from recent issues and is now a pillar of the community.

Ah yes, Heineken N.V. with its well known focus on sustainability and personal wellness.

 

[Spymaster]

Ah yes, Heineken N.V. with its well known focus on sustainability and personal wellness.

This is your problem, Broggers; you're too easily led by the nose by some of the people on this thread.

 

[brogdale]

This is your problem, Broggers; you're too easily led by the nose by some of the people on this thread.

Nice response

 

[Spymaster]

Nice response

You should never respond this way on the boards. It's a concession to your interlocutor and a tacit acceptance of defeat.

 

[furluxor]

Brodog is cringy as hell. Nanny State is a good tasting non-alcoholic beer but I rarely have it because I just can't stand the brewer.

My vegetable stock brand also capitalizes on rebel-speak but somehow it just doesn't irk me as much. I briefly volunteered at a vegan/anarchist cafe back in the day and they had that sort of language, 'punk burger' etc. If they're still going in the same vein it must really piss them off how every corporate shithole has adopted that kind of branding nowadays.

 

[Spymaster]

Brodog is cringy as hell. Nanny State is a good tasting non-alcoholic beer but I rarely have it because I just can't stand the brewer.

My vegetable stock brand also capitalizes on rebel-speak but somehow it just doesn't irk me as much. I briefly volunteered at a vegan/anarchist cafe back in the day and they had that sort of language, 'punk burger' etc. If they're still going in the same vein it must really piss them off how every corporate shithole has adopted that kind of branding nowadays.

But would you agree with those on this thread who suggest that Brewdog is, in large part, responsible for the revival of the fortunes of the “Punk” movement, and responsible for the recent uplift in its image?

 

[furluxor]

But would you agree with those on this thread who suggest that Brewdog is, in large part, responsible for the revival of the fortunes of the “Punk” movement, and responsible for the recent uplift in its image?

What do you mean, I thought Brewdog was the punk movement.

 

[two sheds]

But would you agree with those on this thread who suggest that Brewdog is, in large part, responsible for the revival of the fortunes of the “Punk” movement, and responsible for the recent uplift in its image?

This is your problem, Spyers; you're too easily led by the nose by some of the people on this thread.

 

[xenon]

Spymaster Who's Mr Gorsky?

e2a Just Googled. Apparently a myth...

 

[Spymaster]

This is your problem, Spyers; you're too easily led by the nose by some of the people on this thread.

Nah. Some of us were born to lead, and others to follow. It’s why you felt compelled to respond to my post.

 

[two sheds]

and why you felt compelled to respond to MY post, and why I felt compelled to ... err ...

 

[Spymaster]

Spymaster Who's Mr Gorsky?

e2a Just Googled. Apparently a myth...

Of course it’s a myth

In a biography he says that there were several occasions in his youth when people would say xxxx would happen when you walk on the moon. It was a common reference regarding seemingly impossible things back then, but blow jobs aren’t mentioned.

 

[equationgirl]

Feel free to treat it all as a joke but anyone who drinks alcohol supports the murderous drinks industry in general and frankly has the blood of thousands on their hands. Speaking as someone who is 99% teetotal I personally am glad I am not involved in these killings. On the contrary by purchasing alcohol free beer including sometimes from brewdog I save lives by encouraging the production of harm free hydration providing beverages.

99% teetotal means you're still drinking alcohol and therefore supporting the murderous drinks industry yourself.

And you're either teetotal or you're not, you can't be mostly teetotal.

 

[Spymaster]

Brewdog supporting the vegan diet fad again.

 

[Pickman's model]

99% teetotal means you're still drinking alcohol and therefore supporting the murderous drinks industry yourself.

And you're either teetotal or you're not, you can't be mostly teetotal.

every year he has an 87 hour bender

 

[equationgirl]

Brewdog supporting the vegan diet fad again.

And your thoughts on the matter are what, exactly? You know the rule about content free posts.

 

[brogdale]

And your thoughts on the matter are what, exactly? You know the rule about content free posts.

Oh noes...simply saying this has offered a concession to your interlocutor and a tacit acceptance of defeat.

 

[equationgirl]

Oh noes...simply saying this has offered a concession to your interlocutor and a tacit acceptance of defeat.

Oh noes indeed

 

[Spymaster]

And your thoughts on the matter are what, exactly? You know the rule about content free posts.

Ahhh, there you are Eggie! I was wondering how long it would take

I think it's fantastic. What about you?

 

[Spymaster]

Oh noes...simply saying this has offered a concession to your interlocutor and a tacit acceptance of defeat.

Boom! That one really registered, didn't it????

 

[equationgirl]

Ahhh, there you are Eggie! I was wondering how long it would take

I think it's fantastic. What about you?

The usual - I think they're only interested in veganism because it's become cool and is therefore a moneyspinner.

 

[editor]

The usual - I think they're only interested in veganism because it's become cool and is therefore a moneyspinner.

Indeed. if it was something they actually cared about they would have adopted it years ago. Still, it looks like there's plenty of people still being suckered by their PR guff.

 

[equationgirl]

Indeed. if it was something they actually cared about they would have adopted it years ago. Still, it looks like there's plenty of people still being suckered by their PR guff.

Exactly. They only care about making as much money as they possibly can, without considering working conditions etc