BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff

[dessiato]

Did you get a reply to your email yet?

Which one?

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

This seems a bit back to front to me to be honest. I don't think anyone is saying anyone else has an obligation to buy from Brewdog, that would obviously be ridiculous. If you don't want to just don't, nobody cares.

Yes, that's what I said.

Seems to me the implication on this thread is more the other way - that someone who would buy their products shouldn't.

I agree

And I think that absolutely does lead down that path of whataboutery tbh.

Absolutely, and if you are aware of other companies that are just as bad don't buy from them either. . . (though this thread is only about Brewdog).

But that wasn't their point. They were saying my equation of 'does your need/desire for a product outweigh how much you care about how much of a shitbag you think the company is?' was "not as simple as that". . . They set up a scenario where they wanted a non alcoholic beer. . . but only Brewdog or Becks, so which one should they have? They knew Brewdog was bad, but maybe Becks was also bad so why single out Brewdog for a boycott? I said because I know Brewdog are shits. If Becks are shit too then don't buy from them either . . . unless your need for beer outweighs how much you think they are cunts. . . that's up to the consumer. Seems quite simple to me. What isn't simple about that?

 

[Spymaster]

Yes, that's what I said.

I agree

Absolutely, and if you are aware of other companies that are just as bad don't buy from them either. . . (though this thread is only about Brewdog).

But that wasn't their point. They were saying my equation of 'does your need/desire for a product outweigh how much you care about how much of a shitbag you think the company is?' was "not as simple as that". . . They set up a scenario where they wanted a non alcoholic beer. . . but only Brewdog or Becks, so which one should they have? They knew Brewdog was bad, but maybe Becks was also bad so why single out Brewdog for a boycott? I said because I know Brewdog are shits. If Becks are shit too then don't buy from them either . . . unless your need for beer outweighs how much you think they are cunts. . . that's up to the consumer. Seems quite simple to me. What isn't simple about that?

You seem confused.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

You seem confused.

I'm not. . . but I assume you are.
Let me help you. What bit don't you understand and I will go through it again just for you.

 

[Spymaster]

I'm not. . . but I assume you are.
Let me help you. What bit don't you understand and I will go through it again just for you.

The main bit.

 

[DaphneM]

Charles Wells’s main brewery is just down the road from my house. I’ve never heard anyone working for them say they are cunts. But they do use agency staff sometimes.


They now also brew the Youngs range.

That is all.

Wikipedia says this "In May 2017, the company announced that it was selling the brewery and wine business to Marston's Brewery together with the Bombardier and McEwan's brands and rights to the Young's brands. It said it would set up a separate brewery in Bedford to brew Charles Wells-branded beers"

 

[A380]

Wikipedia says this "In May 2017, the company announced that it was selling the brewery and wine business to Marston's Brewery together with the Bombardier and McEwan's brands and rights to the Young's brands. It said it would set up a separate brewery in Bedford to brew Charles Wells-branded beers"

I’m not sure that happened in full cos Covid. They flogged some of their brands and the new bottling plant and re branded as Wells and Co - though no one calls them that , arround the Brew Point brand?

 

[DaphneM]

I’m not sure that happened in full cos Covid. They flogged some of their brands and the new bottling plant and re branded as Wells and Co - though no one calls them that , arround the Brew Point brand?

i dont think they brew youngs from what i can see

they used to have distribution rights to Red Stripe in the uk ages ago, vaguely interesting point

 

[mwgdrwg]

193 pages.

 

[teuchter]

Which one?

A little while ago you said you were going to demand an apology from Brewdog. I'm interested what their response was.

 

[two sheds]

People can still attract libel suits even if what they posted is 100% accurate thanks to a system that favours rich cunts.

yes fair point, wouldn't fancy relying on the Arkell vs Pressdram defence

 

[dessiato]

A little while ago you said you were going to demand an apology from Brewdog. I'm interested what their response was.

I'd forgotten about that. I, therefore, assume I got no reply.

 

[teuchter]

The behaviour of Watt is appalling. There's no excuse for it. I shall be asking for "explanations" and, as an absolute minimum, apologies. There is no excuse for this behaviour. We all know better.

It's disappointing that you just forgot about it, when an apology was supposed to be an absolute minimum.

This is an illustration of why Brewdog and other companies can just not bother too much about a lot of this bad press stuff. Most people simply aren't that bothered in the end.

 

[ATOMIC SUPLEX]

The main bit.

Ho ho, you are a hoot.

 

[A380]

i dont think they brew youngs from what i can see

they used to have distribution rights to Red Stripe in the uk ages ago, vaguely interesting point

They lost the Red Stripe licence a few years ago ( to Northampton?) . They replaced it with Kirin but you can’t get it in many places now…

 

[friedaweed]

https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/two-free-pints-of-brewdog-at-any-of-their-bars.378472/

For the fans.

 

[friedaweed]

i dont think they brew youngs from what i can see

they used to have distribution rights to Red Stripe in the uk ages ago, vaguely interesting point

Pretty sure Diaggio have had redstripe for a while now.

 

[teuchter]

https://www.urban75.net/forums/threads/two-free-pints-of-brewdog-at-any-of-their-bars.378472/

For the fans.

If someone tries to accept this offer via PM or other underhand methods, I trust you will reveal their identity on this thread so that they can be lectured and scolded appropriately.

 

[friedaweed]

If someone tries to accept this offer via PM or other underhand methods, I trust you will reveal their identity on this thread so that they can be lectured and scolded appropriately.

It's in the post mate

Don't forget it's a bank holiday though so you wont get it until Tuesday/Wednesday

 

[DaphneM]

Pretty sure Diaggio have had redstripe for a while now.

Oh, this was a long time ago

 

[William of Walworth]

Has this article been posted? Some wild stuff. Don't take cocaine, guys.

Conspiracy Weary — BrewDog CEO Files Fraud Lawsuit Against Woman He Paid for Information (Update: 11/4/23) — Good Beer Hunting

Update, Nov. 4, 2023: What was previously announced as a resolution to this case was not in fact its complete end. The BBC reports today that James Watt's criminal fraud prosecution against Emili Ziem "has ended” with Ziem “being acquitted of all charges." According to the report: &quot

www.goodbeerhunting.com

I've read this properly now

Why anyone!, on this thread/Urban generally/elsewhere, might? be inclined to defend the main man being discussed, is utterly beyond me!

 

[Humberto]

I haven't read it yet, but from a prior discussion:

cheaper clothing = sweatshops
Sweatshops (Libertarians say) are progress of the free market (the workers go there entirely voluntarily because it is better for them).

 

[Humberto]

Save you 10 pages.

 

[Humberto]

That's all creeping in here too. No breaks. Hours when they please. No talking.

 

[teuchter]

I've read this properly now

Why anyone!, on this thread/Urban generally/elsewhere, might? be inclined to defend the main man being discussed, is utterly beyond me!

Not sure anyone here is "defending" him are they?

 

[William of Walworth]

Not sure anyone here is "defending" him are they?

Possibly not all that directly

But 'Whataboutery-ing' about him, Brewdog, their practices, etc., and out of that, 'comparing' BD with other supposedly 'about as bad' companies, has what some on this mega-thread have definitely been doing.

Just saying. IMO, etc.

 

[xenon]

I don’t know. Buying shares in them is kind of defending them. or at least saying yeah, I’d like to profit from this companies activities.
Cue boring obvious post about pension funds.

 

[teuchter]

I don’t know. Buying shares in them is kind of defending them. or at least saying yeah, I’d like to profit from this companies activities.
Cue boring obvious post about pension funds.

For sure it's staying yes I'm happy to profit from the company's activities. And owning shares is about as far as anyone on this thread has gone in active involvement with the company. At least, as far as anyone has owned up to.

It's a bit silly to say it amounts to "defending" the activities and behaviour of James Watt though.

Various posters have defended their own choices. No-one that I remember has tried to defend James Watt.

 

[dessiato]

I don’t know. Buying shares in them is kind of defending them. or at least saying yeah, I’d like to profit from this companies activities.
Cue boring obvious post about pension funds.

For sure it's staying yes I'm happy to profit from the company's activities. And owning shares is about as far as anyone on this thread has gone in active involvement with the company. At least, as far as anyone has owned up to.

It's a bit silly to say it amounts to "defending" the activities and behaviour of James Watt though.

Various posters have defended their own choices. No-one that I remember has tried to defend James Watt.

I have shares, it's mentioned on this thread. I was subjected to a lot of abuse for it. Anyone else who is a shareholder is unlikely to admit it here if they saw what abuse I received. They would be wise not to.

 

[editor]

I have shares, it's mentioned on this thread. I was subjected to a lot of abuse for it. Anyone else who is a shareholder is unlikely to admit it here if they saw what abuse I received. They would be wise not to.

"Abuse"
Poor thing,