That's your response as a retail worker warrior?supermarkets employ no staff at all nowadays?
Right.
BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff
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Right.
It doesn't taste like lager you mad cunt.
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
Is this a London thing?Yeah. I'm not a huge fan of Punk IPA but it's alright and Hazy Jane is very good. I've been in plenty of pubs where I'd have jumped at Punk IPA on tap if it had been there. Brewdog are not Greene King.
I sometimes moan about the seeming hegemony of IPA, but easy to forget how bad the choice of beer in many pubs used to be.
As for BD as an employer, a quick google suggests they pay about the same as Greene King. They're both shit employers, like most employers.
Where I grew up you had Badger, King Alfreds, Butts, Moorland, Sussex, Copper, Otter.....
Now I'm in Wye Valley Brewery territory
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
"American style" IPA doesn't taste like IPA either, it shouldn't be fucking pale for starters.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
So they didn't lay off all the staff as you said they did?
Right.
If you don't like the drink, what makes you a fucking expert on it?
Just don't buy it?
They kept them all on to watch the security guards who watch the machines.
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
I do like IPA, we invented IPA and being sold some weird yank, straw coulored version of it should be an insult.
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
I don't actually go into supermarkets now so I'll take your word for the security guards watching the machines, you clearly have experience of this.
Isn't it brewed in Scotland though?
In the smaller ones yes. The bigger ones still have some people working the tills. But not enough to justify what they take from a community in profits vs what they give back with jobs.
Anyway, back to Brewdog lol...
two sheds
Least noticed poster 2007
Indeed
although you were actually lying when you said "they laid off all the staff" weren't you
Anyway back to Brewdog lol....
They laid off all the staff that they replaced with machines. Where's the thread?Indeed
although you were actually lying when you said "they laid off all the staff" weren't you
Anyway back to Brewdog lol....
Anyway, back to Brewdog lol...
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
Yes, but its "American style", because some bloke started up a brewery in the UK copying an American pastiche of IPA.
IPA is pale for British beer, its almost red. It aint amber (nectar). It doesn't have fucking citra hops either.
All fucking "craft" beer seems to taste of grapefruit because they can't get enough of them
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Greene King IPA? 
I agree with a lot of what you say, FM, and while I like IPA and sometimes even the grapefruity ones, I also like lots of dark beers.
Not true what you say about spoons. Yes, they get what's going cheap, but their guest ales can be fantastic. In red beer season, I've had some superb red ale in spoons. They have better beer and a better range of styles than most pubs.
I agree with a lot of what you say, FM, and while I like IPA and sometimes even the grapefruity ones, I also like lots of dark beers.
Not true what you say about spoons. Yes, they get what's going cheap, but their guest ales can be fantastic. In red beer season, I've had some superb red ale in spoons. They have better beer and a better range of styles than most pubs.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
I like a good pint of Harvey's. Hard to get nowadays, though, outside of Sussex.
IPA, and US-style IPA has taken over way too much, and Brewdog is certainly an example of that - basically all their beer is a variant on that theme. There's nothing revolutionary about their brewing, for sure. Or their wages. But they are but one of many from what I can see.
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
Greene King IPA?
I agree with a lot of what you say, FM, and while I like IPA and sometimes even the grapefruity ones, I also like lots of dark beers.
Not true what you say about spoons. Yes, they get what's going cheap, but their guest ales can be fantastic. In red beer season, I've had some superb red ale in spoons. They have better beer and a better range of styles than most pubs.
Didn't mean their beer was bad, per se, they just buy whatever's going cheap (or they used to) - you can get some decent enough beer there.
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
Brewdog aside, all "craft" beer tastes of citrus - so much so, that it, as a genre has its own distinct taste. It's not unpleasant, but it shouldn't call itself what it isn't. Its a new type of beer.
Go through Aldi's (for example) craft beer tin section (excluding the stouts), have a can of each of the tens of beers there, there's more similar than different about them.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Yes, I agree. Lidl's Hatherwood porter, though, is really nice. And £1.10 a 500ml bottle. I drink that a lot now I've discovered it.
I like a good mild. That's nearly extinct.
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
My grandad drank mild - you could only get cans of dark mild down south (Ironically "Trent" mild).
I like that - "children's beer" as my Welsh mate used to call it.
I don't think people want a 1-2% beer nowadays
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Greene King IPA?
I agree with a lot of what you say, FM, and while I like IPA and sometimes even the grapefruity ones, I also like lots of dark beers.
Greene King’s IPA is actually one of the better ones. If it's grapefruity, fizzy, or the colour of lager, it's not an IPA. I get the Greene King hate regarding their acquisition policy but their pubs are usually in high quality properties and well kept, and their beers are pretty good. Abbot Ale is one of the best large production beers available in in UK pubs and I'll always grab a few bottles of the excellent Abbot Reserve if I see it on the shelf.
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
Syrup for piss heads. I would suggest the Fuller's range is far better balanced.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I'm a big fan of Fullers. London Pride is my standard tipple and ESB is excellent. Unfortunately they've fallen down the over-hopped, 'citrus' rabbit hole with IPA, and some of the others like Honeydew are bang average.
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Abbot has a nasty aftertaste. Not a fan at all. A well-kept London pride is way better. Problem with pride is it needs to be really fresh. Goes off very quickly and loses its creaminess. Abbot doesn't have any creaminess to lose.
kenny g
Sheeple Awake!
Never had it around long enough to go off! Pride is one hell of a moreish delight.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
A nice foamy head. Pride has that when it's fresh, not when it's not.Creaminess is not a word I believe should be associated with cask ale. Are you sure you’re not thinking of something else?
ESB is similar. ESB is dangerous, though. Been the start of many an accidental piss-up.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
If you're after a 'British'-style IPA, I recommend Dark Star Revelation.
Another dangerous beer, though.
Another dangerous beer, though.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
Ah, ok. Never been a huge fan of foamy head. Not in my beer anyway. It’s bubbles where beer should be.
The main trouble with ESB is that one pint can put you a bit too close to the drink driving limit and it’s hard to stop at one.
A huge 99 flake style foamy head ( not from a sparkler ) is a sign of freshness in all cask beer - it’s created by co2 coming out of the liquid which only happens in really fresh beer.
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