BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff

[belboid]

I just don't agree that everything you consider to be misogyny, is misogyny; or IF it is, some of it is not the kind of misogyny that I care about.

We just draw the line in different places.

Funny how many men draw the line so far away from where women do, isn’t it? And both views are obviously equally well informed and fully aware of the implications of said placement.

 

[belboid]

Like Dominic Raab, he hates misogyny against men.

 

[teuchter]

I think one of you needs to have a word with the other.

I think you need new glasses.

 

[Spymaster]

Qualified with that great big IF.

"Growler" for example. IF you think that's misogynystic, I (along with many other men and women) don't care for your definition of the term.

 

[equationgirl]

I just don't agree that everything you consider to be misogyny, is misogyny; or IF it is, some of it is not the kind of misogyny that I care about.

We just draw the line in different places.

Not the kind of misogyny you care about. Wow.

Please elaborate about the type of misogyny you do care about.

 

[Spymaster]

Like Dominic Raab, he hates misogyny against men.

I think you need to have another lie down, bellers.

 

[PR1Berske]

This thread

 

[Spymaster]

Not the kind of misogyny you care about. Wow.

Please elaborate about the type of misogyny you do care about.

See post above yours.

 

[equationgirl]

I mean, what could I possibly know about misogyny and it's continued impact on women in society. It's not like I have experienced it regularly, sometimes on a daily basis. But that's not the right kind of misogyny to give a shit about, apparently.

That's beyond arrogant, Spymaster.

I look forward to your upcoming lectures on the right types of disability discrimination, racism and homophobia to give a shit about too.

 

[equationgirl]

No really, Spymaster, tell us what misogyny you care about.

 

[Spymaster]

I mean, what could I possibly know about misogyny and it's continued impact on women in society. It's not like I have experienced it regularly, sometimes on a daily basis. But that's not the right kind of misogyny to give a shit about, apparently.

You're opinions are your opinions. Why do they carry any more weight than those of other women who disagree with you? To think that they do is beyond arrogant.

 

[Spymaster]

No really, Spymaster, tell us what misogyny you care about.

If you want to give some examples I'll let you know what I think.

Let's start with "growler". No.

 

[ElizabethofYork]

Not all women think the same way about perceived misogyny! The Brewdog stuff - Trashy Blonde beer, Growler, etc. I couldn't give a fuck about.

 

[hitmouse]

If you want to give some examples I'll let you know what I think.

Let's start with "growler". No.

How about the claims made about James Watt this week?

Brewdog chief James Watt accused of inappropriate behaviour

Former US workers at the brewing giant say James Watt's behaviour made female bartenders feel "uncomfortable" and "powerless".

www.bbc.co.uk

And if some of that does count as the kind of bad misogyny that you do care about, could there perhaps be some connection between when Brewdog does bad misogyny and when it does good misogyny?

 

[Rob Ray]

I will say this thread has been fantastic in showing up the lengths of bad faith chicanery Spymaster and Magnus have been prepared to throw out simply to protect their precious ickle egos. Plus whatever is happening to teuchter, which is a whole other thing.

 

[Spymaster]

How about the claims made about James Watt this week?

Brewdog chief James Watt accused of inappropriate behaviour

Former US workers at the brewing giant say James Watt's behaviour made female bartenders feel "uncomfortable" and "powerless".

www.bbc.co.uk

And if some of that does count as the kind of bad misogyny that you do care about, could there perhaps be some connection between when Brewdog does bad misogyny and when it does good misogyny?

If half the stuff about JW is true, the bloke's an arsehole.

'Self-made millionaire in total dickhead shocker'!

 

[equationgirl]

Not all women think the same way about perceived misogyny! The Brewdog stuff - Trashy Blonde beer, Growler, etc. I couldn't give a fuck about.

I'm not saying all women think the same.

 

[belboid]

He’s not a ‘self made millionaire’ he stole that surplus value (and ripped off muggins’ like dess)

 

[hitmouse]

Plus whatever is happening to teuchter, which is a whole other thing.

I think that one might be a form of performance art?

 

[Spymaster]

I'm not saying all women think the same.

But you're right and ElizabethofYork is wrong, and me agreeing with Liz is misogynystic?

 

[equationgirl]

But you're right and ElizabethofYork is wrong, and me agreeing with Liz is misogynystic?

I'm interested in the good misogyny you seem to think exists in the world.

 

[Rob Ray]

I think that one might be a form of performance art?

I was wondering if he'd been possessed by a horrible compulsion to try and play the role of a corporate Don Quixote in the age of the internet.

"Have at thee, hordes of Urban75, you have besmirched my cherished love!"
"Sir, that is a thread on an errant brewing firm."
"I emerge victorious, Sancho! The fiends are vanquished!"
"But sir, you shit the bed and everyone called you an idiot ..."
"Victorious!"

 

[Spymaster]

I'm interested in the good misogyny you seem to think exists in the world.

I'm interested in why your version of misogyny trumps other womens.

 

[editor]

Not all women think the same way about perceived misogyny! The Brewdog stuff - Trashy Blonde beer, Growler, etc. I couldn't give a fuck about.

How about this kind of stuff?

• Mr Watt was witnessed by staff kissing an intoxicated customer on a roof terrace bar
• Female bartenders were advised how to avoid unwelcome attention from Mr Watt
• Managers would try to schedule certain female staff to be off to avoid Mr Watt's visits
• One bartender said she felt "powerless" to prevent unwelcome attention from Mr Watt
• Mr Watt, while on trips to his US bars, took women on late night private brewery tours, leaving staff feeling uncomfortable

 

[ElizabethofYork]

How about this kind of stuff?

• Mr Watt was witnessed by staff kissing an intoxicated customer on a roof terrace bar
• Female bartenders were advised how to avoid unwelcome attention from Mr Watt
• Managers would try to schedule certain female staff to be off to avoid Mr Watt's visits
• One bartender said she felt "powerless" to prevent unwelcome attention from Mr Watt
• Mr Watt, while on trips to his US bars, took women on late night private brewery tours, leaving staff feeling uncomfortable

That's all shitty. It happens to women in many, many workplaces.
And of course it's misogynistic.

 

[chilango]

If half the stuff about JW is true, the bloke's an arsehole.

'Self-made millionaire in total dickhead shocker'!

He's a successful arsehole though, which is what seems to count, amirite?

 

[equationgirl]

If you want to give some examples I'll let you know what I think.

Let's start with "growler". No.

What if your wife said she saw harassment at work?
What if she was offended by a marketing campaign?

 

[Spymaster]

He's a successful arsehole though, which is what seems to count, amirite?

Some people would certainly consider it an accolade.

Others may admire his business success whilst lamenting his workplace malefactions.

 

[Rob Ray]

I'm interested in why your version of misogyny trumps other womens.

Spymaster, earlier:

https://64.media.tumblr.com/323aa5cb5b4c5161dcbcf0fe1443780e/tumblr_mu71kizf7v1rob81ao8_r1_250.gifv

 

[equationgirl]

Well Spymaster ? You asked for examples, I have given you examples.