chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
That's not really your motivation though is it?
BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff
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Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
No you didn't.
You , me, and others had "discussed" many times before, your fondness for sit-down pissing. It had become a board joke and ultimately we agreed to leave it because you were getting cross.
Then you posted that thread!
You couldn't possibly have expected it to go any other way unless you're a total moron.
Well ordinarily, I post things here to generate discussion. As that what here is for. What’s your motivation for posting here?
Dystopiary
putting up a hook to hang my hopes upon
I joined at the beginning of last year after lurking for a few weeks. Never been a member before that.
Fair enough. Welcome etc
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
On this thread, right now, to add my voice to those saying that the sexist shit deployed by Brewdog, and supported by some posters, isn't ok.
Well you be pleased to learn I haven’t supported Brewdog either.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Good. I'm just not sure what benefit your intervention has. It reads - to me at least - as whataboutery, whether that was intended or not.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
that's not how I remember it at all.
I’ve often been of the view that this whole ‘something is or isn’t sexist/racist/etc depending on who is saying it’ just further confuses the layman. Plus there doesn’t appear to be a consensus on it. I’ll admit mischief by throwing it in the mix. But it shouldn’t be off bounds to discuss.
It's contested whether it's a good thing within marginalised communities, for sure. I'm not totally into it myself, but it's not really my call.
I'm unconvinced there's very many people who are actually confused by it tbh, just lots of dickheads who say they are cause they want a licence to say racist things etc.
I disagree. For example coloured people bad but people of colour good. It’s basically the same words in a different order.
But we digress…
ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
Sort it out ffs
e2a - YOU digress, who knows why, to take some heat off the "sound" poster maybe, but it's YOU digressing
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
I'm not keen on the title 'Loose Women' and am far from confident that daytime TV is freed from sexist tropes and discourse regardless of the gender of those involved. But, for lots of reasons, I'm don't think its a particularly relevant example to extend the discussion of BrewDog's marketing.
that's not what we're talking about here though? We're talking about marginalised communities reclaiming words that have been used as slurs against them. Can't see what relevance this has to that?
There’s a lot of older people who use outdated terminology (coloured v poc v bame etc) with no malice intended
ETA oh sorry just seen your above post
What falls into acceptable language or not, in whose eyes etc. The continuation of some disallowed language by restructuring it.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
There seems to be a lot of confusion over the relevance or otherwise of malice.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
You've done this a few times now and also quoted me, in direct contravention of the board's rules.
As you know, you and I are supposed to be on mutual ignore, which prohibits you from referring to me in any way, so can you stop please?
If it's the case that we are no longer on MI, that's fine too.
I've missed our little chats.
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
...but to return to topic, what Brewdog have done here is the opposite of that.
They have knowingly taken what would be a generally inoffensive term in context (Growler as beer container) and linked that with it's offensive use as misogynist slur via their shitty "fnar fnar" branding campaign.
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Do you have a link to the specific fnar fnar campaign you have in mind?
I didn’t know that was a sexist term until this thread. I suppose the Northern version would be Slapper, although many women refer to each other as such. I don’t agree with sexism as a marketing device. Reclaimed words or not, you can’t deny that Loose Women are employing the same tactic. What makes it ‘acceptable’ on here is that the show is seen as empowering to women.
These things are not always going to be easy to unpick, but I reckon if you listen to people and are prepared to back down when you fuck up you can usually find a way through without too much trouble. I think maybe if you feel something goes too far or is difficult to understand there's probably ways of opening up discussion into it that don't make you look like some twitter edgelord too.
ElizabethofYork
Old Crone
Is it? Personally, I find it utterly shite.
it isn't, he made that bit up
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