Fozzie Bear
Well-Known Member
It is gaslighting basically: no you’re wrong, you’re overreacting, you love the drama…
It’s really shit.
It’s really shit.
BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff
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ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
It's how they get their jollies, here and vegan thread, sadly
Throwing in the odd reasonable looking post to make it look like they're not for a bit then back to trolling
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hiraethified
And the two laughing emoticons underneath?
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hiraethified
Not sure what point or comparison you're trying to prove here.
| Executive producer | Emma Gormley |
| Producers | Edd Benjamin Eleanor Cotter Mattie Jameson Helen Stuart Harriet Thurley Laura Hills (planning; head) Joey Cella (showbiz; head) Annabel Zammit (celebrity) |
| Editors | Sally Shelford (Editor) Tom Sage (Deputy Editor) Yiljan Nevzat (Deputy Editor) |
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hiraethified
Please fuck off this thread if all you have to add is emojis.i thought it was funny!
I am old enough to not much care about snide-y insinuating shite...but my 10 year old grand-daughter is enveloped in a fucking tidal wave of gendered, grotesquely skewed and impossible aspirations...and I swear, I am angry, sick of it and depressed, all at the same time. I don't relish getting shouty at posters on here - it's just not me...but I am sincerely asking for recognition that being joke-y, light-hearted, ironic doesn't somehow mitigate the really unpleasant, damaging effects of slippery nastiness...and tbh, I can't see anything commendable with producers using this sort of shitty marketing. Being slyly complicit with this sort of sniggery-pokery is...a bit rubbish.
So there’s an Edd a Mattie and a Joey credited as producers. So seems pretty mixed to me.
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hiraethified
Why the fuck are you going on and on about an all-women hosted TV show when we're talking about misogyny in the brewing industry? What point are you trying to make?
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
Yeah.
I just don't get what motivates posters to try and have a dig at people saying misogynistic shit is, well, misogynistic shit.
On and on. Two posts.
I was pointing out another example of a sexist pejorative in branding. Which is what was being discussed earlier in the thread.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
Just to go back to this - what about the veggie threads and the other threads in which you and your fellow provocateurs like to misbehave on? it's not just that thread. you treat this place like a gladiatorial arena - it's all about the shit flinging - you and the others display very little interest in having a constructive conversation. You don't seem to realise that many of are earnest in their efforts to share their opinions and learn from discussing where they differ with others.
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hiraethified
I don't agree that an all woman TV show headed up by a female executive producer has sexist branding, not that it has anything to do with Brewdog.
Are you suggesting that the women are happy to go along with a 'sexist pejorative in branding' - or that they're too stupid to realise it?
Or perhaps they know exactly what's going on and are happy to have reclaimed the phrase on national TV?
Your point being what, Magnus McGinty ? I would not presume to speak on behalf of women or stuff like that...but I feel totally able to state how demeaning I find some language to be. It isn't even a clear or logical case either (and I can see why you are tempted by pointing out the inconsistencies implicit in various circumstances)...but it HAS been brought to your attention, that specifically, Brewdog, with their knowing, cynical sly disrespect and contempt, is particularly upsetting to these posters (including myself, although mostly from a solidarity POV)...so why not be a decent person and have some empathy?
Just strikes me as odd to be simultaneously against that sort of branding yet equally for it.
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hiraethified
IT'S NOT THE SAME THING.
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
Do you not get the difference between being laughed with and laughed at?
I know what consistency means.
It's not really odd is it? The reclaiming of sexist / racist / homophobic etc slurs by the groups they're targeted at has such a long and widely known history that I can only imagine you're pretending not to understand what the difference is.
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hiraethified
What's your thoughts on the post-punk band, The Slits?
So where does that leave the female executives at Brewdog?
going with the flow 'cause they really can't be fucked like lots of women do?
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
I'm pretty sure it's only one veggie thread that's like that now and that too was set-up with a provocative, finger-wagging, title and OP. And when you say me and my fellow provocateurs, you seem to ignore the fact that most of the other contributors to that thread are fighting about it too! If threads are set-up like that, they're going to attract confrontation. There are other veggie threads that don't get touched by any "provocateurs". Cycling ones too.
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hiraethified
You don't think women executives ever have to work for sexist, misogynistic bosses/companies?
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
So that’s a ‘no’ then
Monkeygrinder's Organ
Dodgy geezer swilling vapid lager
Individual women are obviously more than capable of acting in a way that acts against other women or women more generally aren't they. See Priti Patel, Margaret Thatcher, Ghislaine Maxwell etc etc. I don't think that's particularly controversial is it?
chilango
Hypothetical Wanker
What's your motive here in trying to point out "inconsistencies" Magnus McGinty?
Several people - reasonable, thoughtful posters - on this thread on a left wing messageboard which is apparently so left wing that we're totally removed from what normal people think, have said they don't get involved with discussions on feminism here because it's like banging their heads against a wall. Here, in one of the most ludicrously right-one spaces on the internet. Imagine what it must be like elsewhere. Imagine the adjustments & compromises many women must have to make to be able to get out of bed every the morning without stabbing you.
Orang Utan
Psychick Worrier Ov Geyoor
it doesn't matter that there are other threads that people behave themselves on - I'm talking about the ones in which people behave disgracefully and make posters not want to be here anymore.
It's all very well telling people to ignore certain threads and certain posters, but we'll still be aware that the rot is still there - it just has a veil across it. As I said earlier, some threads need to be gone cos they exist purely to whip up conflict
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