Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
This back into the sea bit has been done to destruction
BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff
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souljacker
innit
You fucking love it. Have a word.Lol, that's a bit difficult when I'm being tagged or quoted in pretty much every other post!
I'm only responding to others.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
It's hard work. Been a busy day here too.
Numbers
an ting!
I have a crate/box of this, it’s out of date now but if anyone wants it they can have it.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
How come you didn't drink it?
Numbers
an ting!
Bought it on a whim to be honest mate and was gonna give it as a gift but never got around to it + I don’t drink beer.
editor
hiraethified
Just pissed off a load of people in Bristol
Licence granted for new BrewDog bar despite residents' objections
The new bar lies in a “cumulative impact” zone in the city centre
editor
hiraethified
Oh and their attempt to steamroller over Edinburgh's planning laws has backfired. Ha ha.
www.dailyrecord.co.uk
BrewDog ordered to remove new hotel outdoor canopy at listed Edinburgh building
The local council told the New Street venue to take down the canopy bosses installed above the approved newly built terrace.
Peter Painter
Well-Known Member
I didn't think for one minute that you were pretending to speak for all women. But I'm glad you spoke up.
I love women and I'd never want my language to make any woman feel i'm trying to discriminate against them or belittle them, insult them, or even make them feel uncomfortable, simply because they're female.
I only mentioned my misses' comments because they pulled me up sharp a bit. Your comments made me think. Then my misses' comments made me think again. I kind of wish I hadn't mentioned it because as you say, "this thread is about a company notorious for using misogyny as a marketing tool, for widespread corporate bullying and for a deliberate anti-union stance", whereas her comments were far more general; more about language and humour than they were about Brewdog per se.
As far as I'm concerned you weren't being silly, brainless or bonkers. Your views might not represent all women but that doesn't mean that you should keep quiet if you feel that something is, or someone is being, mysognistic. As I said, I'm glad you spoke up. And I expect many others are too.
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AverageJoe
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Spy are you OK?
I know you've been most vociferous on this thread, posting with a fecocity that suggests something outside of these boards if bothering you and you're using this place to rant and get some space.
It's OK to not be OK and if you've had some stuff to deal with then that's cool too.
What's not cool is lashing out.
Feel free to pm if you've got shizzle that you're struggling with. You've been here twenty (20!!!) years. I might be able to help I'm happy to listen.
I mean, I might not, but hey....
I know you've been most vociferous on this thread, posting with a fecocity that suggests something outside of these boards if bothering you and you're using this place to rant and get some space.
It's OK to not be OK and if you've had some stuff to deal with then that's cool too.
What's not cool is lashing out.
Feel free to pm if you've got shizzle that you're struggling with. You've been here twenty (20!!!) years. I might be able to help I'm happy to listen.
I mean, I might not, but hey....
He’s a sound guy. And isn’t posting any differently than he ever has.
Just pissed off a load of people in Bristol
Licence granted for new BrewDog bar despite residents' objections
The new bar lies in a “cumulative impact” zone in the city centrewww.bristol247.com
I’m trying to think where those flats are. But you know they are in the city centre. So I’m not defending brew dog but if you live right near a load of other bars. Expecting it to be quiet of a weekend is a bit much. Especially as many of those flats were built fairly recently, well I mean within the last 20 years. Around the harbour area. That said they’re perfectly entitled to object to new developments that could easily add to any antisocial booze related problems
8ball
Decolonise colons!
Nah, that sort of talk is for Brixton and when Brewdog aren’t involved.
Spymaster
Plastic Paddy
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Matt Berry, kind of
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Can't we just embrace the messiness? Instead of demanding that posters we find annoying must leave, or that threads have to be certified "serious" or not?
Somewhere a few pages ago someone said that urban is supposed to be a sanctuary of some kind. I don't recall any wide agreement at any point that this is what it's "supposed" to be.
It's always been somewhere with a mix of very serious well-informed discussion, general messing around, arguing for the sake of it, engaging in wind-ups, spectating of bunfights and everything else. Many threads contain elements of all of these things. Sometimes it's ambiguous what's going on - and you have to try and figure out if someone is really serious or just performing a parody of a position they disagree with. Or exaggerating their own position for the fun of it. Personally I enjoy all this; it's what makes it interesting and entertaining and challenging. Do people want it to become some kind of dreary place where all views have to be within an established gamut, comments can only be made in entirely po-faced fashion, and threads are strictly regulated to stay on topic and maintain a constant and consistent level of seriousness throughout? Part of the character of urban75 has always been that it's relatively self regulated. There's another forum I sometimes look at where they are totally intolerant of off-topic discussion and such discussion is forcefully removed and put into new threads with sensible titles chosen by the moderators. Some of the best discussions on here are when they go way off topic. In fact that tends to be true in "real life" too.
We already have the health and relationships forum where there's an agreement that different expectations apply - that's fine and with good reason.
Should there be an additional fenced off area where it's agreed that discussion on non "health and relationships" subject matter will always be dead serious and on topic? Then all the people who just want to have boring conversations where they all basically agree with each other can stay in there, and the rest of us can carry on with business as usual.
Somewhere a few pages ago someone said that urban is supposed to be a sanctuary of some kind. I don't recall any wide agreement at any point that this is what it's "supposed" to be.
It's always been somewhere with a mix of very serious well-informed discussion, general messing around, arguing for the sake of it, engaging in wind-ups, spectating of bunfights and everything else. Many threads contain elements of all of these things. Sometimes it's ambiguous what's going on - and you have to try and figure out if someone is really serious or just performing a parody of a position they disagree with. Or exaggerating their own position for the fun of it. Personally I enjoy all this; it's what makes it interesting and entertaining and challenging. Do people want it to become some kind of dreary place where all views have to be within an established gamut, comments can only be made in entirely po-faced fashion, and threads are strictly regulated to stay on topic and maintain a constant and consistent level of seriousness throughout? Part of the character of urban75 has always been that it's relatively self regulated. There's another forum I sometimes look at where they are totally intolerant of off-topic discussion and such discussion is forcefully removed and put into new threads with sensible titles chosen by the moderators. Some of the best discussions on here are when they go way off topic. In fact that tends to be true in "real life" too.
We already have the health and relationships forum where there's an agreement that different expectations apply - that's fine and with good reason.
Should there be an additional fenced off area where it's agreed that discussion on non "health and relationships" subject matter will always be dead serious and on topic? Then all the people who just want to have boring conversations where they all basically agree with each other can stay in there, and the rest of us can carry on with business as usual.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Misogyny and trolling shouldn't be business as usual.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Spot on; especially when it exhibits as misogynistic bullying of a poster attempting to make a very valid point about misogyny.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Have you not been following the thread?
The poster who highlighted the explicit misogyny in the Brewdog branding was called another silly, brainless, beef-witted serial offence taker and bonkers for doing so.
co-op
But....but cLoWnFiSh....
You could always go and find an example of my "vicious bile" while you're waiting. It'd help you pass the time.
teuchter
je suis teuchter
Yes I have been following the thread.
I don't think the Brewdog branding is "explicit" misogyny. I do think it raises some things that are worth discussing though, and I think there is very likely some element of misogyny in the process that ended up in that name being chosen.
I have my own opinions about what was and wasn't ok, in the various interactions since then. As I do in any thread here.
I think that the ensuing discussion probably made quite a lot of people think more about that Brewdog branding choice, than they would have if it had just been described as misogynistic and then everyone had nodded their heads and the thread had moved on. Because there would also be people who would have rolled their eyes, thought such an objection was stupid, and also moved on without any change in their opinion or thoughts about what is or isn't misogyny.
Now as for the "bullying" I think that's an overstatement, I believe it's long been part of the culture for urban75 that people can all each other idiots (and worse) and then have a big argument about it. I know that some people don't think that to be a good thing, and want it to change so that we all tip-toe around each other carefully instead. Like I say, perhaps there should be a fenced-off area for those who want that.
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Sigh
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
Is that one of BrewDogs?
Storm Fox
Trying the find the next noun to verb
This is seems to be a particularly vicious spat, that had died down, (I'm fairly new here so I don't what gone down before). But it had died down you have now stirred it with a couple of posts that will wind up both sides of the argument.
Well Done
krtek a houby
Merry Xmas!
This is seems to be a particularly vicious spat, that had died down, (I'm fairly new here so I don't what gone down before). But it had died down you have now stirred it with a couple of posts that will wind up both sides of the argument.
Well Done
It's his m.o.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
If anyone was calling for a safe-space your ramblings might have some relevance, but as it is, there was some bullying behaviour that was called out, challenged robustly and the offending poster(s) didn't seem to like that. The thread did appear to 'police' itself without intervention.
btw calling a product growler and writing it on the bottle is, IMHO, pretty much the definition of explicit.
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