BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff

[teuchter]

I hate the fact that not being a sexist dick gets twisted into being po-faced and dreary.

They are definitely two different things, in my opinion.

The po-facedness is not referring to an intolerance of people posting sexist nonsense.

It's referring to an intolerance of a posting style or culture that includes some level of deliberate provocation, hyperbole, or ambiguity of intent.

 

[Dystopiary]

I hate the fact that not being a sexist dick gets twisted into being po-faced and dreary. You can fuck right off with that kinda nonsense.

See also "feminist kiljoys".

 

[Storm Fox]

It's his m.o.

Seeing argument was about the use of certain words in relation to misogyny. I'm going to refrain for certain words that are used a lot around here, and just say that teuchter is somewhat of a contemptable fellow for restarting the argument.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

This is seems to be a particularly vicious spat, that had died down, (I'm fairly new here so I don't what gone down before). But it had died down you have now stirred it with a couple of posts that will wind up both sides of the argument.

Welcome to Urban.

 

[teuchter]

Seeing argument was about the use of certain words in relation to misogyny.

I actually refrained from getting involved in that argument, other than being the only person who sought out and posted some actual evidence that Brewdog were always fully aware of the alternative meanings of the word in question.

That argument morphed into one more generally about the posting culture on urban, and that's the one I decided to enter into and as you see it, stir up. And I remain happy with that decision. That you said it would wind up both sides of the argument I take as a compliment, because it shows I made a perfectly balanced intervention.

 

[Storm Fox]

Welcome to Urban.

I've been here is March last year, but seeing people have been since 2001 I'm still a noob

 

[Maggot]

My absolute favourite is made by Beavertown Brewery. I hope nobody is going to tell me that they're wankers too!

How come Growler is misogynistic but Beaver town is ok?

 

[equationgirl]

How come Growler is misogynistic but Beaver town is ok?

Because Beavertown isn't named for the female genital colloquialism of Beaver, but a corruption of De Beauvoir town, in part of East London.

Whereas growler was clearly chosen in line with Brewdog's misogynistic marketing guidelines.

 

[Dystopiary]

How come Growler is misogynistic but Beaver town is ok?

This is a thread about BrewDog.
Do you know that Beaver Town was set up as a sexist dog whistle? I genuinely don't know. *
Look up the difference between "beaver" and "growler" as slang words and I think that will at least partially answer your question.
BrewDog have a long history of misogyny, examples of which are in this very thread, as well as many other shitty practices.

eta * equationgirl has just addressed this.

 

[surreybrowncap]

How come Growler is misogynistic but Beaver town is ok?

Brewery set up by Logan Plant (son of Robert….

experimenting in my kitchen, developing my own brewing style by trial and error. I set up a brewery – Beavertown, named after the old Cockney nickname for De Beauvoir Town in east London, home of our first premises were. And we set up an American-style barbecue joint where we'd also serve the beers – which became Duke's Brew and Que in Dalston.

 

[krtek a houby]

Seeing argument was about the use of certain words in relation to misogyny. I'm going to refrain for certain words that are used a lot around here, and just say that teuchter is somewhat of a contemptable fellow for restarting the argument.

He's been doing this shit for aeons. Being contrarian, pretending to explore and encourage debate, butter wouldn't melt etc.

 

[chilango]

How come Growler is misogynistic but Beaver town is ok?

Do Beavertown use "Huh huh we said 'beaver'" type branding?

 

[brogdale]

How come Growler is misogynistic but Beaver town is ok?

It's a fair question, but Plant jnr. claimed that it was named after the old Cockney nickname for De Beauvoir Town in east London which was the home of their first premises.

 

[co-op]

Brewery set up by Logan Plant (son of Robert….

experimenting in my kitchen, developing my own brewing style by trial and error. I set up a brewery – Beavertown, named after the old Cockney nickname for De Beauvoir Town in east London, home of our first premises were. And we set up an American-style barbecue joint where we'd also serve the beers – which became Duke's Brew and Que in Dalston.

I'm guessing that the "Old Cockney nickname" probably wasn't 100% innocent of sexual innuendo

 

[Storm Fox]

This is a thread about BrewDog.
Do you know that Beaver Town was set up as a sexist dog whistle? I genuinely don't know. *
Look up the difference between "beaver" and "growler" as slang words and I think that will at least partially answer your question.
BrewDog have a long history of misogyny, examples of which are in this very thread, as well as many other shitty practices.

eta * equationgirl has just addressed this.

Do Beavertown use "Huh huh we said 'beaver'" type branding?

Looking at their products; no, AFAICT none of their products have names that involve sexist innuendo.

 

[Magnus McGinty]

Never heard of De Beauvoir Town…

 

[killer b]

He's been doing this shit for aeons. Being contrarian, pretending to explore and encourage debate, butter wouldn't melt etc.

tbf I generally find teucher's provocations worth engaging with - they often lead in interesting directions.

 

[krtek a houby]

tbf I generally find teucher's provocations worth engaging with - they often lead in interesting directions.

Hit and miss, imho

 

[killer b]

Hit and miss, imho

aren't we all.

 

[Spymaster]

... there was some bullying behaviour that was called out, challenged robustly and the offending poster(s) didn't seem to like that.

An interesting appraisal of proceedings, Broggers.

Bollocks, but interesting!

 

[brogdale]

An interesting appraisal of proceedings, Broggers.

Bollocks, but interesting!

QED

 

[teuchter]

By the way if anyone wants to do a check on their local brewer, this website has quite a comprehensive register of offenders.

sexism – Pumpclip Parade

pumpclipparade.co.uk

 

[equationgirl]

An interesting appraisal of proceedings, Broggers.

Bollocks, but interesting!

So what would you call it, Spymaster?

 

[editor]

I'm guessing that the "Old Cockney nickname" probably wasn't 100% innocent of sexual innuendo

This is desperate stuff. And desperately irrelevant too.

 

[Spymaster]

So what would you call it, Spymaster?

The post you've quoted makes it pretty clear what I call it.

 

[co-op]

This is desperate stuff. And desperately irrelevant too.

Probably quite irrelevant but what's so "desperate" about it? It was just a comment that the word looks likely to be an innuendo, how does that piss you off?

 

[editor]

Probably quite irrelevant but what's so "desperate" about it? It was just a comment that the word looks likely to be an innuendo, how does that piss you off?

It's more of the same fucking tedious, topic shifting whataboutery that this thread is riddled with.

 

[co-op]

It's more of the same fucking tedious, topic shifting whataboutery that this thread is riddled with.

Get a grip. It was a passing comment and nothing to do with whatever you're ranting about.

 

[equationgirl]

The post you've quoted makes it pretty clear what I'd call it.

You said it was bollocks.

So calling people on this thread 'silly, beef brained serial (although you said series in the original post) offence takers, brainless and bonkers, is what, your version of complimentary?

Take responsibility for your posts and answer a direct question.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

Never heard of De Beauvoir Town…

It's one of the more obscure bits of Hackney, but was visited by Lenin, Stalin, Trotsky and Rosa Luxemburg in 1907:

Lenin in Hackney

In 1907 the 5th Congress of the Russian Social Democratic Labour Party was held in a church on the corner of Southgate Road and Balmes Road in the De Beauvoir area of Hackney. Attendees included Le…

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