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BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff

Ok, twat is still ok, noted.
And I assume cunt is still fine on Urban but I’m not sure about whether it would be misogynistic if used in branding.

What is your position in the growler debate?
is cunt not misogynistic on Urban too?
 
Why not read back over the last few pages (say from 108 on) and see if you can work it out.
No. I’m not apologising to anyone on your say so, nor because they chose to be offended by something that was only offensive because they chose it to be.

If either you, or she, feels you should, and you both should, apologise to me for you passive aggressiveness, I’ll be open to listening.

I find your post and attitude offensive, are you ready to apologise for that?
 
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No. I’m not apologising to anyone on your say so, nor because they chose to be offended by something that was only offensive because they chose it to be.

If either you, or she, feels you should, and you both should, apologise to me for you passive aggressiveness, I’ll be open to listening.
You should not of course apologise on someone's say so. But you should apologise when you've something to apologise for. And frankly if you go back and look at your posts you'll see, I'm sure, that you've not done yourself any favours here. If I was in your shoes I'd say sorry because it's the right thing to do.
 
No. I’m not apologising to anyone on your say so, nor because they chose to be offended by something that was only offensive because they chose it to be.
Just because you don't know the meaning of a term doesn't mean that meaning doesn't exist. Ten seconds on Google would have shown you that bit in bold just isn't true. (In the blog someone posted, Brewdog themselves seem aware of the UK meaning.)
If either you, or she, feels you should, and you both should, apologise to me for you passive aggressiveness, I’ll be open to listening.
dessiato, this really isn't your best look :(.
 
No. I’m not apologising to anyone on your say so, nor because they chose to be offended by something that was only offensive because they chose it to be.

If either you, or she, feels you should, and you both should, apologise to me for you passive aggressiveness, I’ll be open to listening.

I find your post and attitude offensive, are you ready to apologise for that?
FTR I'm not asking for any apology from anyone (to anyone); we're all grown-ups on here...but you're doing that thing again where you're suggesting that another poster has chosen to take offence, rather than them expressing genuine issues with the word. Just because you were not aware of the alternative usage of the word growler does not mean that others' offence is any less real.

It's interesting, as someone else upthread said, that teuchter 's linked corporate blog piece shows that the owners were aware that the word(s) could have a very different connotation in the UK. They appeared to be comfortable with their edginess and aware that others in the UK may well see a very different meaning behind the branding.

As the beer-toting youngsters dashed about with such haste, apparently the phrase ‘rushing the growler’ entered the American lexicon (something that would have a very different connotation in the UK, perhaps).
 
Just because you don't know the meaning of a term doesn't mean that meaning doesn't exist. Ten seconds on Google would have shown you that bit in bold just isn't true. (In the blog someone posted, Brewdog themselves seem aware of the UK meaning.)

dessiato, this really isn't your best look :(.
I choose to be offended by this.
 
All very personal taste and all that...but as a huge fan of SN I really have never taken to the Spitfire...just too 'red' and tastes like other, lesser beers. Agree about the ordinary bitter, though...it's a good session ale and always was. Well, since the 1970s at least; my paternal GF would never touch the stuff in the 50s/60's...
Did anyone else spend a minute squinting at this trying to work out what a paternal girlfriend is, or am I just slow?
Ok, I'll bite. I don't think I've heard/seen anyone use "twat" to decribe genitals before, even though that's supposedly the origin.
I think Azealia Banks uses it to describe hers in L8R and Esta Noche?[/pointless Azealia Banks trivia]

Anyway, I think we all owe some thanks to comrade teuchter for his tireless work chronicling BrewDog's depravity, I wonder what bit of damning evidence against them he'll turn up next?
 
Did anyone else spend a minute squinting at this trying to work out what a paternal girlfriend is, or am I just slow?

I think Azealia Banks uses it to describe hers in L8R and Esta Noche?[/pointless Azealia Banks trivia]

Anyway, I think we all owe some thanks to comrade teuchter for his tireless work chronicling BrewDog's depravity, I wonder what bit of damning evidence against them he'll turn up next?
Sorry; Grandfather:facepalm:
My bad; I have the rona...more addled than normal.
 
You should not of course apologise on someone's say so. But you should apologise when you've something to apologise for. And frankly if you go back and look at your posts you'll see, I'm sure, that you've not done yourself any favours here. If I was in your shoes I'd say sorry because it's the right thing to do.
Of course it isn’t.
 
FTR I'm not asking for any apology from anyone (to anyone); we're all grown-ups on here...but you're doing that thing again where you're suggesting that another poster has chosen to take offence, rather than them expressing genuine issues with the word.

Well it doesn’t help that the complainant in question has a record for overreacting to things like this, as long as a donkey’s cock.
 
I hate this stuff. The essence of it is that everything is going along nicely, you have male and female friends, we're all having a nice time and then someone (Brewdog in this case) says HA! Look! There's a difference between us! We can use divisive language (because make no mistake, this is divisive language) to appeal to the demographic we want to reach!' 'But what if it's offensive in a dog-whistle way that divides and alienates those we're not targeting?' 'More publicity you mean? Bring it on!'

It's deliberate and cynical and, yes, actually quite offensive. But unless you're deliberately trying NOT to understand that, everyone has probably worked that out.
 
I hate this stuff. The essence of it is that everything is going along nicely, you have male and female friends, we're all having a nice time and then someone (Brewdog in this case) says HA! Look! There's a difference between us! We can use divisive language (because make no mistake, this is divisive language) to appeal to the demographic we want to reach!' 'But what if it's offensive in a dog-whistle way that divides and alienates those we're not targeting?' 'More publicity you mean? Bring it on!'

It's deliberate and cynical and, yes, actually quite offensive. But unless you're deliberately trying NOT to understand that, everyone has probably worked that out.
I now understand that some find the word offensive. At the time I posted the pic I didn't know of this alternative meaning. However, before anyone explained that it was offensive, and why they saw it that way, I was called out on the post.

My position was, and remains, that had it been explained I might well have reacted differently. Indeed I would have apologised for causing this unintended offence. But that is not what happened.

People cannot and should not assume that because they know something everyone knows that same something.

This whole discussion would not have happened, nor would it have needed to happen, if it had been explained in the first place.

For taking this position I make no apology.
 
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