BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff

[dessiato]

Oh ok, I didn't realise complaints about misogyny had to be accompanied by an essay on why exactly I find it offensive.

I find it offensive because growlercan be used as a particular vulgar word for female genitalia and Brewdog have a history of using sexist and misogynistic language and imagery for gain, regardless of any offensiveness.

No-one has to ever explain why they find something offensive, here or in real life. You demanding an explanation just comes across as arrogant and that you know better than anyone else what is offensive and what isn't.

Whether or not you personally are familiar with the word 'growler' isn't the issue - it's been explained to you more than once that Brewdog are a shady company with no ethical compass and yet you see nothing wrong with their behaviour.

As someone who enjoys most of the beers, and as a shareholder it would be rather hypocritical if I did.

But to return to your point about the offensiveness of the word. If all you, or indeed anyone, states something is offensive it is usually a good idea to explain why. Had this been done I would have learned something and would have changed my position on this. Now I know that growler can be offensive, and why, I can modify my attitude to it. Without this knowledge why would I bother?

 

[Spymaster]

This is outstanding.

Brewdog are already carbon negative and actually remove twice as much carbon from the atmosphere than they emit. They are about to start producing vodka from waste beer and package it in biodegradable paper bottles.

With environmental credentials like that, who cares what they call their bottles?

 

[dessiato]

This is outstanding.

Brewdog are already carbon negative and actually remove twice as much carbon from the atmosphere than they emit. They are about to start producing vodka from waste beer and package it in biodegradable paper bottles.

With environmental credentials like that, who cares what they call their bottles?

There’s a deal currently where if you buy one of the beers they plant two trees. The brewery aims to be carbon neutral at least.

 

[8ball]

This is outstanding.

Brewdog are already carbon negative and actually remove twice as much carbon from the atmosphere than they emit. They are about to start producing vodka from waste beer and package it in biodegradable paper bottles.

With environmental credentials like that, who cares what they call their bottles?

Carbon-Undoing New Technology is a funny name for a vodka, though.

I expect they’ll find a way of abbreviating it on the packaging.

 

[Spymaster]

Now I know that growler can be offensive, and why, I can modify my attitude to it.

Why would you though?

The number of real people who would genuinely take offence at this is vanishingly small.

 

[Spymaster]

There’s a deal currently where if you buy one of the beers they plant two trees. The brewery aims to be carbon neutral at least.

Outstanding.

Exceptional company.

 

[chilango]

Pathetic.

 

[dessiato]

Why would you though?

The number of real people who would genuinely take offence at this is vanishingly small.

Because of this exchange I’ve asked some others about “growler” none of them had heard of it as an offensive term for vagina.

 

[Fozzie Bear]

It‘s typical of that nudge nudge wink wink ironic hipster shit. Plausible deniability but the lads know what’s what eh? Them killjoy feminists just have no sense of humour knoworr-I-mean, lads?

 

[Spymaster]

Because of this exchange I’ve asked some others about “growler” none of them had heard of it as an offensive term for vagina.

I've only really heard it used in that sense by Australians.

 

[8ball]

I've only really heard it used in that sense by Australians.

Ah, I thought maybe there had been some trawling of urbandictionary* going on.

* - no relation to these hallowed halls afaik

 

[teuchter]

Not that I'd want to stir things up on this thread but here is some material for you all to analyse, including the comments.

Growlers - It's as simple as it gets

The lowdown on our favourite beery receptacle.

www.brewdog.com

 

[8ball]

I had certainly never heard the term “rush the growler” before, but Googling it leads to a lot of hits and background on US drinking culture.

 

[brogdale]

<tries to imagine the reaction if Brewdog had a beer called Bishops Finger…>

They'd have faced legal action because that trademark brand was made in 1958 and describes the (Kentish) signposts that originally directed the pilgrims of Thomas a Becket travelling to Canterbury.

The signage is still shown on the bottle label:



Avery decent, good value strong beer.

The brewers are tory cunts, of course...like most brewers.

 

[8ball]

Oddly enough, I had actually heard of Bishops Finger prior to reading this thread.

 

[brogdale]

Outstanding.

Exceptional company.

It's a tax dodge, of course.
What you'd expect from a company with a quarter of its stock held in the Cayman islands.

 

[brogdale]

Oddly enough, I had actually heard of Bishops Finger prior to reading this thread.

Exactly; they were trying to be edgy misogynists back in 1958.

 

[Spymaster]

It's a tax dodge, of course.

Can you explain how it works?

 

[8ball]

Exactly; they were trying to be edgy misogynists back in 1958.

Imagine how different things would have been if the internet had existed.

 

[brogdale]

Can you explain how it works?

No, but there's plenty of advice out there for investors who prefer not to honour their wider obligations to society:

https://www.investorschronicle.co.uk/tax/2018/05/18/how-woods-can-be-tax-free/

 

[brogdale]

Imagine how different things would have been if the internet had existed.

Don't get it; those signs have been known as that for many centuries.

 

[8ball]

Don't get it; those signs have been known as that for many centuries.

Disgusting, isn’t it?

 

[teuchter]

I had certainly never heard the term “rush the growler” before, but Googling it leads to a lot of hits and background on US drinking culture.

That article proves that Brewdog were perfectly aware of potential UK connotations back in 2011.

However, as discussed on this thread, a couple of weeks back an official report was published that confirms they have grown up and changed their ways now.

Each time someone criticises Brewdog for a past crime - while knowing they've now been officially proven to have improved themselves - it sends out a very negative message: don't ever work to improve your corporate culture because you'll just keep on getting put down for things you did in the past.

A very irresponsible message to send out to companies because it will just discourage any of them from doing things better.

For this reason the thread should be closed now. In fact it should be binned.

 

[Steel Icarus]

Bishop's Finger is alright, better than the perfumed piss Brewdog serve up

 

[Sue]

Bitter is rank. Old man's beer. I only drink pales or stout. Anything brown looking is to be avoided.

I like bitter but it's often difficult to get these days because pubs have five different IPAs instead .

 

[Spymaster]

No, but there's plenty of advice out there for investors who prefer not to honour their wider obligations to society:

https://www.investorschronicle.co.uk/tax/2018/05/18/how-woods-can-be-tax-free/

But how does becoming carbon neutral, recycling beer, and using biodegradable packaging, help them dodge tax?

 

[Peter Painter]

Oddly enough, I had actually heard of Bishops Finger prior to reading this thread.

It's sometimes known as, 'Nun's Delight', back in Kent.

 

[brogdale]

Disgusting, isn’t it?

 

[brogdale]

It's sometimes known as, 'Nun's Delight', back in Kent.

I've seen people refused service for asking for that....in Fav!

 

[8ball]

It's sometimes known as, 'Nun's Delight', back in Kent.

FFS!!!