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BrewDog: yet another hip company using 'rebel' language to sell its stuff

hitmouse said:
What would you do if you get dragged to one of them ale pubs where they don't have cheap lager? Would you pay the extra "lager tax" and get something fancy German pilsner or whatever or would you just try and find a cheap bitter? I used to be the former but I'm the latter nowadays. God help anyone in a pub where they don't have cheap bitter cos it's either fancy pilsner or hoppy IPAs, though.
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I would go with the fancy pilsner and never return to that place. There is only one that I know of near me, the Winterton Arms, a large selection of poncey crap, have not given it a second visit:

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Bahnhof Strasse said:
And their latest trend is to ask for a fucking sample of the stuff before committing a whole three quid to a pint ...
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:D I've done this for years.

Why the fuck would you buy a pint of something if you don't know what it tastes like? Obviously it's not an issue for lager drinkers cos they just want to get pissed as quickly as possible and most lagers taste the same, but for proper beer drinkers, taste matters.

ETA> I recently tasted the entire range of beer offerings in a boozer that only had Camden beers on; then asked for a gin and tonic.
 
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Spymaster said:
Beer-wise it's pretty broad. I even drink Euro-fizz occasionally. It has its place. An ice-cold Stella or Estrella, when you're lying by a pool in 30 degrees can be just the ticket; although of course the correct drink would be a well chilled dry cider. They're not proper beers though. Proper beers don't have gas added to them, have to be raised by hand-pump, and are mainly consumed by boring blokes wearing jumpers with elbow patches. The only exception to this is Guinness, which when well kept and poured, is probably the finest pint on the planet.
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You'll be unsurprised to hear that I'm setting about my first 1698 of the evening and probably even more unsurprised that I'm doing so whilst wearing a jumper with elbow patches! :D
 
Bahnhof Strasse said:
I would go with the fancy pilsner and never return to that place. There is only one that I know of near me, the Winterton Arms, a large selection of poncey crap, have not given it a second visit:

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Reminds me when some ex-colleagues cajoled me into a night out in Croydon and was taken to the Tree House in the South End 'Restaurant quarter'. Asked for a pint of bitter and they said they had no ale on pump, but could offer me a bottle of Youngs 'Waggle dance'; cunts.
 
Bahnhof Strasse said:
I would go with the fancy pilsner and never return to that place. There is only one that I know of near me, the Winterton Arms, a large selection of poncey crap, have not given it a second visit:

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Fuck that total shit for a full-of-wrongness 'opinion' , man!!!! :hmm: :thumbsdown: :facepalm:

Pilsner rather than the quality real ale range???? :confused:

If those back-wall beers** are overpriced, I'd probably avoid them (not in an insistantly opinionated way though! ;) ).

**the actual 'craft' ones, as opposed to the ones on the handpumps, which are surely much more traditional??

But to have seven!!!! handpump ales available -- hopefully ever-changing and varying! -- is something we dream about in the beer desert of Swansea :mad:

That range, for all I can see, might even include an actual scrumpy on pump!! :D :cool:
 
I'm going to put a second vote in for Dead Pony Club. On draught. At a place that used to be a McDonald's.
They've laid off on the grapefruit.
 
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JimW said:
It was only ever a guest beer round our way and isn't great in tins here but not anything against it in principle. Some of the best stuff widely available its Tennents Scottish Ale in bottles which probably wouldn't look at at home.
Few microbrew places but last time I visited horrible overstrength murk.
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If you ever need a shipment of Tennants, let me know ;)
 
I shall shortly be in Scotland where I'll meet a friend and we will drink Brewdog and get drunk on Kraken rum.
 
No doubt someone will be along to insult me soon, after all liking/supporting/drinking Brewdog is not very acceptable to many here, but it seems Brewdog have improved their staff relations.

BBC News - Brewdog: Bosses say management issues are in the past
www.bbc.co.uk

Brewdog: Bosses say management issues are in the past

The craft brewer's chairman says its management issues are in the past, following claims of a toxic culture.
www.bbc.co.uk
 
Teaboy said:
I used to drink Punk IPA a bit but not now they are cheating us on the booze content. Its a thin end of the wedge issue, next thing we know they may start employing cleaners for their bars. This is not what Brewdog should be about.
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The Aldi anti establishment IPA has kept to a reassuring 5.6 percent so gets my vote if I need a break from the port and am bored with London porter or suchlike.
 
Teaboy said:
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This has potential as a morning drink. A fusion of Vietnamese coffee and Brewdog Ten Ton Truck. At just over 10% it's certainly fits the bill as a pre-work eye-opener.
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Hope you aren't a bus or train driver...
 
dessiato said:
No doubt someone will be along to insult me soon, after all liking/supporting/drinking Brewdog is not very acceptable to many here, but it seems Brewdog have improved their staff relations.

BBC News - Brewdog: Bosses say management issues are in the past
www.bbc.co.uk

Brewdog: Bosses say management issues are in the past

The craft brewer's chairman says its management issues are in the past, following claims of a toxic culture.
www.bbc.co.uk
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I see they're setting up a workplace representative group... the only place I ever worked in that had one of those was virulently anti union.
 
dessiato said:
No doubt someone will be along to insult me soon, after all liking/supporting/drinking Brewdog is not very acceptable to many here, but it seems Brewdog have improved their staff relations.

BBC News - Brewdog: Bosses say management issues are in the past
www.bbc.co.uk

Brewdog: Bosses say management issues are in the past

The craft brewer's chairman says its management issues are in the past, following claims of a toxic culture.
www.bbc.co.uk
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Yup, it's good to read official confirmation that management issues are in the past. It means all the anti-Brewdog maniacs on this thread have no option but to shut up from now on.

Anyone who criticises Brewdog now can be considered against worker rights and against good management practice.
 
I am wholly unconvinced that everything is rosy within the Brewdog organisation, just because the managers say so.

Unless the whole management and company culture has changed, there will continue to be issues regardless.

By all means believe the management when they tell you there's no problems. But ask yourself why you would believe the management over the workers when management are proven liars.
 
Many years ago I worked for a company that carried out annual staff feedback surveys. The survey was compulsory and it was "confidential" yet we had to log in with our ID...

All questions were multiple choice and none of the options allowed you to leave any negative feedback. It was all just degrees of praising management.

After a few years we got wise and managed to work the system to let them know how we really felt. The response was hilarious. Management accepted responsibility for their poor communication, they hadn't communicated to us how brilliant they were. Not the 70 hour weeks and sleepless night through stress whilst on £16k a year, it was all just communications!
 
equationgirl said:
I am wholly unconvinced that everything is rosy within the Brewdog organisation, just because the managers say so.

Unless the whole management and company culture has changed, there will continue to be issues regardless.

By all means believe the management when they tell you there's no problems. But ask yourself why you would believe the management over the workers when management are proven liars.
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Isn't it odd that there's a "perception gap" between ex-employees and those whose livelihood still depends upon employment with the company. :D

Following an independent review into the complaints published this week, Brewdog's chairman and deputy chairwoman, Allan Leighton and Blythe Jack, said they didn't "subscribe to the characterisation".
In their letter to staff, they said a "major theme" of the review was that there was "a distinct gap in terms of perception between former crew and those still with the business".
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Teaboy said:
Many years ago I worked for a company that carried out annual staff feedback surveys. The survey was compulsory and it was "confidential" yet we had to log in with our ID...

All questions were multiple choice and none of the options allowed you to leave any negative feedback. It was all just degrees of praising management.

After a few years we got wise and managed to work the system to let them know how we really felt. The response was hilarious. Management accepted responsibility for their poor communication, they hadn't communicated to us how brilliant they were. Not the 70 hour weeks and sleepless night through stress whilst on £16k a year, it was all just communications!
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It's always communications. I have lost count of how many times somebody new at the top comes and says they are going to fix communications.
Magnus McGinty said:
They’re too hip for industrial relations issues.
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Nailed it.
 
I know you'll all find this hard to believe but I've heard from someone who's seen the report and it's a lot less positive than the BBC article makes out. I dare say there'll be something on Punks With Purpose soon.
 
dessiato said:
No doubt someone will be along to insult me soon, after all liking/supporting/drinking Brewdog is not very acceptable to many here, but it seems Brewdog have improved their staff relations.

BBC News - Brewdog: Bosses say management issues are in the past
www.bbc.co.uk

Brewdog: Bosses say management issues are in the past

The craft brewer's chairman says its management issues are in the past, following claims of a toxic culture.
www.bbc.co.uk
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I bet they've unsued that pub in Brum as well.
 
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