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Boris Johnson tests positive for Covid-19

By the by, raab has just said he hasn't spoken to johnson today, though he did over the weekend. Fwiw I don't think Johnson is near death as the spin and mood music might have been ramping up if that had been the case. However, rune reading, you'd expected raab to have had a call so that he could give an upbeat, 'I spoke to the PM and he's in good spirits, frustrated at... blah, blah'. Might be reading too much into it, but that suggest he's pretty poorly.
 
I did a quick search of my own posts and since 2007, I have wished Boris Johnson dead by being chucked out of a hot air balloon, driving a lorry off a bridge, taken apart with a chainsaw, blasted out of a cannon without a helmet, walled up inside a tomb with Thatcher's corpse, "gutted with a frozen shit knife," and, most recently, assassinated by a cyborg from the future. I will refrain from adding to the list at this sensitive time.
 
The thing about this 'yeah, he's fit enough to still run the country' line is it's a massive insult to injury to those who've already died at home gasping for air after being told they weren't ill enough to be taken into hospital...also if there are so many ICU beds still available why are people being left at home suffering and to die? :hmm: :(
 
There's been an awful lot of refusing to (admit or) deny he has pneumonia.

Looks like he has pneumonia from that.

Quite plausible. Although I guess pneumonia is a spectrum too, and I recall that some studies showed that even a bunch of people with Covid-19 who didnt really show any symptoms showed some lung issues when scanned.

Anyway its clear that we will be treated to the usual lack of info about these matters. I think they've stopped describing him as just having mild symptoms, but instead we got the lines about routine tests, and how he is 'in good spirits'.

If I were forced to guess then I'd probably go for oxygen at this stage, rather than full on ventilation. But unless someone leaks to the press, I dont have high hopes about how timely any info the public are given will be. I'm still waiting for the press to speculate about what experimental treatments he might get, I have already suggested the blood of recovered victims (an old medical classic that has found fresh purpose in this pandemic).
 
The thing about this 'yeah, he's fit enough to still run the country' line is it's a massive insult to injury to those who've already died at home gasping for air after being told they weren't ill enough to be taken into hospital...also if there are so many ICU beds still available why are people being left at home suffering and to die? :hmm: :(

Sometimes when I hear the government message 'stay at home, protect the NHS', my brain responds cynically with 'protect the NHS, die at home'.
 
I agree with some who've posted critically in response to Edie ....

She said "Whatever his politics ... " but it's exactly his brand of Tory politics that has brought the NHS to this pass, and Boris Johnson personally has a whole lot to do with all the mis-steps, mistakes and delays concerning this pandemic.

He is personally (and the Government collectively) responsible for the UK's outbreak becoming so bad.

I'm fucked :mad: if we 're somehow "not allowed" to criticise him just because he's been unfortunate enough to get this horrible disease -- plenty of others have caught it because of him.

No-one on this thread is wishing him dead! (I'm certainly not).

A few have come pretty close :hmm: to be fair, but the overwhelming majority, rather than wishing him dead, are either taking the piss, criticisng his politics as poltics, or both.

One solution suggested above was for Edie to put this particular thread on ignore. Good idea.
I really hope she continues posting, as she has a lot of good stuff and information to offer, but probably better and nicer for her to do so on other threads.

Boris Johnson -- I might hope he recovers, and I do, but criticism of him and pisstaking him really isn't worthy of a flounce.

That's a considerably less measured response than anything Edie posted.

Good thing she's got a good head on her given she's going to need it to carry on working.
 
Presumably people are aware of magical thinking.Wishing Boris dead will have no effect on his health nor will karma be at work if those wishing him dead later on die of the virus.

I think some people prone to this kind of anxiety might well worry about these things.
 
Also. It's not so much about the impact on Johnson of us "wishing him dead" but on ourselves.

I have to admit that whilst not wishing him dead I've been finding more entertainment in his predicament than (on reflection) I'm entirely comfortable with.

Doesn't mean I can't or won't engage in some dark humour about it. But I do need to be mindful that it doesn't take me to places I really shouldn't be going in myself.

If that makes sense?

At the same time I wonder (without a conclusion as yet) whether it is possible to distinguish between the potential death of Boris Johnson the person and the death of Boris Johnson the Prime Minister and symbol of so much that is wrong
 
The thing about this 'yeah, he's fit enough to still run the country' line is it's a massive insult to injury to those who've already died at home gasping for air after being told they weren't ill enough to be taken into hospital...also if there are so many ICU beds still available why are people being left at home suffering and to die? :hmm: :(

Is this actually happening? I've seen no such reports, do you have a link?

They offered to take my pregnant niece in, but she declined, on the basis that if it got worst, she would call 999 again, thankfully she's now recovered.
 
National leaders are loath to admit to any sort of health issues and avoid having to be admitted to hospital like... er..well like the plague.
A major reason for this is fear of rivals.
The fact that raab had not ispoken to him kind of confirms that he is in no position to do any governmentating.
Obviously its tragic that we will be deprived of his talents at this time of crisis but we just have to cope the best we can
 
I couldn’t care less if BJ the man dies or not. I do worry that the PM dies, we are in the middle of a massive crisis, and whilst Johnson has done everything wrong so far, looking at the utter shower of shit that sits in the HoC on all sides, the very last thing we need now is some fucking power struggle, or, ffs, dumbo Raab gifted the job.
 
Also. It's not so much about the impact on Johnson of us "wishing him dead" but on ourselves.

I have to admit that whilst not wishing him dead I've been finding more entertainment in his predicament than (on reflection) I'm entirely comfortable with.

Doesn't mean I can't or won't engage in some dark humour about it. But I do need to be mindful that it doesn't take me to places I really shouldn't be going in myself.

If that makes sense?

At the same time I wonder (without a conclusion as yet) whether it is possible to distinguish between the potential death of Boris Johnson the person and the death of Boris Johnson the Prime Minister and symbol of so much that is wrong
I hope most people here would not greatly mourn the death of a man who procured an attack on a pensioner
 
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Is this actually happening? I've seen no such reports, do you have a link?

They offered to take my pregnant niece in, but she declined, on the basis that if it got worst, she would call 999 again, thankfully she's now recovered.


 
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