BNP leader faces jail!!

[ViolentPanda]

thankyou.

ps. Lemierre's disease.

I heard it was the French Disease.

 

[MrA]

You'd be better off knowing your history.
Griffin's BNP hasn't had a policy of "compulsory expulsion of non-whites". Even Tyndall's BNP didn't, given that both incarnations wanted to get rid of "wops", "dagoes", "spics" and "yids" as well as those from the African and Indian continents and the West Indies.
IIRC the NF were the last fascist group to have a policy that explicitly called for the forcible repatriation of non-whites, and even they never closely defined what they actually mean by "non-white".

I'm sure that prior to 1999 the BNP had a forced repatriation policy in their manifesto.

Two issues:
1) There's already a voluntary scheme, and it's rather pathetic. It was originally funded to cover around five figures' worth of applicants per year, but has only ever reached a couple of thousand in any year, and tends only to do so because it's a cheap way of getting your household goods shipped "back home" for those planning to do so anyway for their retirement!

Only open to non Brits and non commonwealth citizens though.

2) They can't review recent grants of citizenship. There's no mechanism to do so, and under the ECHR any political party would have a hard job legislating one.

OK,

It's not compulsory, and any "encouragement" that exceeds legislative bounds is actionable.

There's little chance of the BNP achieving power, but their policy states that they would redefine British Citizenship, they're on record on who they feel are British or not and they are on record as stating that non Brit's would be 2nd class citizens. This amounts to "encouragement" to volunteer in my view.

 

[MrA]

In most cases if they're not born in the UK they're Commonwealth citizens, and if they're born here they are British, as unlike France and Germany, we haven't been quite so active in withholding subject-hood/citizenship from people born here whose parents legally reside here.

Quite right, under the BNP however even those born here would not be regarded as British.

 

[MrA]

You said the BNP has a policy of complusory expulsion of non-whites. We demonstrated (with your help) that they don't.

OK the BNP has an agenda for compulsory expulsion of non whites. Better?

 

[butchersapron]

Nope.

 

[MrA]

Nope.

Tough.

 

[butchersapron]

Explain yourself

 

[MrA]

Explain yourself

The British National Party stands for the preservation of the national and ethnic character of the British people and is wholly opposed to any form of racial integration between British and non-European peoples. It is therefore committed to stemming and reversing the tide of non-white immigration and to restoring, by legal changes, negotiation and consent, the overwhelmingly white make up of the British population that existed in Britain prior to 1948.

The BNP's 2005 general election manifesto called for white British people to be given preference in jobs, housing and education which would see ethnic minorities become second-class citizens under the law.

THe BNP believe that non whites cannot be British. by legal changes, negotiation and consent,

The BNP would offer generous financial inducements to people of foreign decent to be voluntarily repatriated to their country of origin, this given everything else, I believe, is tantamount to making it compulsory.

The BNP's mini manifesto is the 2005 general election manifesto with some of the secondary measures removed.

The BNP selectively reporting non white crimes, creating an atmosphere of hatred and intolerance.

 

[butchersapron]

Yep.You're wrong when you claim that the BNP position is complusory expulsion of non-whites. Everything you post hammers those nails home. You can back off (lose face) or carry on (loose bigger face).

 

[MrA]

Officially their position is of voluntary repatriation. I am not disagreeing with that, nor did I intend to make that argument, I should have been more clear.

What I am saying, however, is that their position on the status of non-Whites as British citizens (or lack thereof) means that should they come to power these non-White citizens - who according to Nick Griffin - do not even exist would no longer be counted as legal citizens. As non-citizens they would no longer be legal residents and the laws protecting them from involuntary repatriation would no longer apply. Leaving the BNP to kick them out of the country at will - since they are not citizens they do not have the right to stay.

 

[butchersapron]

'Recent' - do you read what you tell us to read?

 

[MrA]

'Recent' - do you read what you tell us to read?

................

 

[trevhagl]

i think rather than arguing with each other it would be easier settling on a common denominator ie that the BNP are CUNTS and it doesn't really matter how well they hide it

 

[MrA]

'Recent' - do you read what you tell us to read?

The BNP wishes to return the ethnic makeup of the British Isles to that prior to 1948. Therefore my position is that recent means back to 1948.

Do you have a better explanation? You haven't offered one yet.

 

[butchersapron]

Don't need to.

 

[MrA]

Don't need to.

Do you contend that the BNP wouldn't repatriate non whites? Or are you keeping to your cop out?

 

[butchersapron]

Your claim that the BNP support forcible expulsion of non-whites = gone. Say something Mr.

 

[MrA]

Your claim that the BNP support forcible expulsion of non-whites = gone. Say something Mr.

Their recent mini manifesto doesn't "appear" to support forcible repatriation, however there is plenty of underlying evidence to show that they do, their last full manifesto is explicit on the cirtizenship of non whites and their 1997 manifesto is explicit on the forcible repatriation of non whites.

And as YI Otter has posted, Nick is on record as saying that this is ultimate agenda.


Let me ask you a question, I've been reviewing some of your old threads and posts regarding the BNP they appear to be neutral at best.

What is your position regarding the BNP? Just so I know what I'm dealing with.

 

[butchersapron]

So you're wrong and you finally admit it - yes?

Yes,i'm in the BNP and am a white nationalist. Review a bit deeper.

 

[trevhagl]

dear dear my attempts at peace keeping didn't go well did they? Maybe Tony Blair can get me a job

 

[MrA]

So you're wrong and you finally admit it - yes?

Yes,i'm in the BNP and am a white nationalist. Review a bit deeper.

I won't admit anything, I believe I have made myself clear, eventually.

Do you believe that the BNP do not have an agenda to repatriate non whites?

 

[butchersapron]

You failed to uncover my pro-bnp sympathies though trev

 

[butchersapron]

I won't admit anything, I believe I have made myself clear, eventually.

Do you believe that the BNP do not have an agenda to repatriate non whites?

Run run run runaway...

Seriously, just admit that you got it wrong, no need to poison everything else.

 

[MrA]

Run run run runaway...

Seriously, just admit that you got it wrong, no need to poison everything else.

You were too easy.....

I don't know if you are secretly pro BNP, but you sure have an odd way of showing that you're not.

Night night it's late here.

 

[MrA]

You failed to uncover my pro-bnp sympathies though trev

Did I say that? erm, no. Looks like another divert to me though,

 

[butchersapron]

Maybe i am BNP?

 

[butchersapron]

Did I say that? erm, no. Looks like another divert to me though,

Yeah, you did:

Let me ask you a question, I've been reviewing some of your old threads and posts regarding the BNP they appear to be neutral at best.

What is your position regarding the BNP? Just so I know what I'm dealing with.

 

[The Black Hand]

Yes indeed. Calling on the state to imprison Nick Griffin is clearly the height of working class political consciousness.

That is fantasy. I did not call on the state to imprison Griffin.

That is more of your straw man stupidity.

 

[The Black Hand]

the alternative course of action argued by the same poster was to bring some fictitious mob in to do Griffin over.

DOh, yet more straw man stupidity to cover your lack of politics

Lies now is it. Yet more Bullshit from the depressed ultra left.

 

[The Black Hand]

and you trust em!!!!

Quite. Well put Trev.