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Black Lives Matter demos and protests UK, 2020-2021

BBC are going with this:

"Police said at this stage there was no evidence to suggest it was a targeted shooting or that she had received any credible threats against her prior to the incident.
Detectives from the Met's Specialist Crime Command have been conducting enquiries at the scene in Consort Road and the surrounding area, and are pursuing a number of lines.
It is believed that the shooting occurred near a house where a party was taking place and that a number of people may have been in the area, a Met police statement said."
 
Twitter is full of some very unpleasant posts about her shooting atm (as I guess Twitter would be). Whether this was a far right attack, gang related or something else I can see this playing into the far right
 
I think her shooting was almost certainly gang related. As the gang problem in inner London has been very serious for several decades now. It is often made worse by drill music, where different gangs taunt each other in rap videos and brag about their violent exploits. These videos are shared on social media and provoke tit for tat shootings and stabbings! It is really sad how the youths of most inner cities have turned on each other.
 
Waterwheel said:
I think her shooting was almost certainly gang related. As the gang problem in inner London has been very serious for several decades now. It is often made worse by drill music, where different gangs taunt each other in rap videos and brag about their violent exploits. These videos are shared on social media and provoke tit for tat shootings and stabbings! It is really sad how the youths of most inner cities have turned on each other.
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:hmm:
 
Oof, first we had black on black violence on this thread (very not keen on the phrase on account of the fact you never hear the phrase white on white violence) and now we have gang violence being blamed on drill music as opposed to, say, deliberate impoverishment by a government that believes in low wages and punitive welfare systems, and/or the criminalisation of drugs. This thread needs work is all I'm saying.
 
Brainaddict said:
Oof, first we had black on black violence on this thread (very not keen on the phrase on account of the fact you never hear the phrase white on white violence) and now we have gang violence being blamed on drill music as opposed to, say, deliberate impoverishment by a government that believes in low wages and punitive welfare systems, and/or the criminalisation of drugs. This thread needs work is all I'm saying.
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Apologies. You're right, that was a lazy way of characterising it.
 
Brainaddict said:
Oof, first we had black on black violence on this thread (very not keen on the phrase on account of the fact you never hear the phrase white on white violence) and now we have gang violence being blamed on drill music as opposed to, say, deliberate impoverishment by a government that believes in low wages and punitive welfare systems, and/or the criminalisation of drugs. This thread needs work is all I'm saying.
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Why does everyone have to blame poverty for gang violence? There has always been poverty and many of the young people involved in street gangs today are not poor as they own cars etc. And most poor people do not become gang members. Older people will remember just how much poverty there was in Britain in the 1950s but there was very little gang violence or violent crime then. Would you also say that football violence was caused by poverty? Football violence increased throughout the country as poverty fell!
 
[QUOTE="Waterwheel, post: 17124781, member: 81451”]Older people will remember just how much poverty there was in Britain in the 1950s but there was very little gang violence or violent crime then.
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Wtf! :D
 
MrSki said:
Krays & Richardsons spring to mind.
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The Krays and Richardsons were rarities! Now there are violent gangs on every council estate in the country! Any idiot will know that violent youth crime has massively increased over the past 70 years. While at the same time poverty has fallen!
 
I've lived in moss side and next to Broadwater farm. There was a bit of gun violence, bit of knife violence, some street robbery a few drug dealers but nothing you couldn't avoid if you carefully avoided the people involved by avoiding them.
 
Waterwheel said:
Why does everyone have to blame poverty for gang violence? There has always been poverty and many of the young people involved in street gangs today are not poor as they own cars etc. And most poor people do not become gang members. Older people will remember just how much poverty there was in Britain in the 1950s but there was very little gang violence or violent crime then. Would you also say that football violence was caused by poverty? Football violence increased throughout the country as poverty fell!
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Oh do fuck off!
 
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