Black and Track
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Johnny Canuck3
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you don't
you said that taekwado is just another form of karate, it just isn't, if you knew anything about taekwando or karate you would not have made such a idiotic statement
you are just talking rubbish
fundamentally they are the same, as in they are martial arts, in the same way that boxing is the same as karate because they both involve punches
Johnny Canuck3
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In taekwondo tournaments, the contestants get extra points for scoring with high kicks; the roundhouse kick is really big with them.
Most karate styles confine kicks to the waist-down area, and also use foot sweeps and other low leg-based moves. This means that your center of gravity isn't raised as much, and you aren't as open as you are when one of your feet is up at the other guy's head level. If you know what you're doing, an attempt by an opponent to do a roundhouse kick to the head, gives you the opportunity to kick or punch him in the balls or, more effectively, in the knee of the leg that remains on the ground.
Tae kwon do is showier than karate, but imo, many karate styles are more effective.
I've studied two karate styles, goju and shotokan, with a little bit of hapkido, along with a hybrid chinese style. A good friend of mine took tae kwon do at the same time.
scifisam
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Where's the contradiction? Ability to run at altitude makes you a better long-distance runner at sea-level too. Height is another factor, and muscle type - as well as many more. The peoples you've mentioned tend to be short; perhaps there are other factors counting against them too, biological as well as cultural.
And yes, I do believe there are genetic factors, although that's only part of why people become good at specific sports. And it's not about being 'black' in terms of colour or identity or even in terms of being from the continent of Africa - it's about having specific ancestry from specific regions.
Johnny Canuck3
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Boxing and karate both involve punching, but the blocking is fundametally different. Once again, karate uses force to counter punching type blows, by hitting the blow out of the way, in essence. Boxing uses deflection, through bobbing, weaving, and avoidance.
A expert karate practitioner should be able to beat a boxer because of the use of kicking, but using just upper body technique, the boxer has the advantage. I recall sparring with a boxer, and it was extremely frustrating: he wasn't fighting 'fair'.
Johnny Canuck3
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You're right though. It was badly worded to say that tae kwon do was 'just another type of karate'. I was speaking loosely, in answer to your comment that blacks might be good at karate, but not tae kwon do.
At that point, we weren't having a technical argument about martial arts, but simply splitting hairs about what martial arts blacks might be good at.
At that point, we weren't having a technical argument about martial arts, but simply splitting hairs about what martial arts blacks might be good at.
scifisam
feck! arse! girls! drink!
I can't see any biological reason why anyone would be good at tae kwon do and not at karate, or vice versa. That really is hair-splitting worthy of Bill Clinton.
Johnny Canuck3
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i think that both of us are intelligent enough to not carry on this idiotic and pointless dicussion (for your sake
This isn't actually a discussion. That requires knowledge on the part of both of the participants.
This is what you call, a lecture.
This isn't actually a discussion. That requires knowledge on the part of both of the participants.
This is what you call, a lecture.
from here it seems like you are implying that you are educating me about the difference between karate and taekwando which you said where the same thing a couple of minutes ago before i pulled you up on it
'cheers johhny'
Johnny Canuck3
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I'm just trying to broaden your knowledge.
My comment about karate and tae kwon do was sufficient to answer your assertion that there might be some reason why blacks might be good at one but not the other. For those purposes, there are no essential differences between the two.
you are talking out of your arse
you said taekwando was another type of karate, it isn't, it is taekwandofrom a different country and a different culture to karate you ignorant fucker
and where did i say that blacks might be good at one and not the other?
this is your thread called black and track about why black people are good at certain sports and so on, this is you trying and failing to appear intelligent
race has nothing to do with it, you are just talking out of your arse and unsurprisingly a load of shit pours out
Johnny Canuck3
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Anyone able to master karate can master tae kwon do. And you got shown that blacks had mastered karate.
Johnny Canuck3
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Then we'll go back to the original point.
Fastest 100 metres runners
Top thirteen all-time athletes — men
Updated 16 Aug 2008[5]
Rank Time Wind (m/s) Athlete Nation Date Location
1 9.69 0.0 Usain Bolt Jamaica 16 August 2008 Beijing
2 9.74 +1.7 Asafa Powell Jamaica 9 September 2007 Rieti
3 9.77 +1.6 Tyson Gay United States 28 June 2008 Eugene
4 9.79 +0.1 Maurice Greene United States 16 June 1999 Athens
5 9.84 +0.7 Donovan Bailey Canada 27 July 1996 Atlanta
+0.2 Bruny Surin Canada 22 August 1999 Seville
7 9.85 +1.2 Leroy Burrell United States 6 July 1994 Lausanne
+0.6 Justin Gatlin United States 22 August 2004 Athens
+1.7 Olusoji Fasuba Nigeria 12 May 2006 Doha
10 9.86 +1.2 Carl Lewis United States 25 August 1991 Tokyo
−0.4 Frankie Fredericks Namibia 3 July 1996 Lausanne
+1.8 Ato Boldon Trinidad and Tobago 19 April 1998 Walnut
+0.6 Francis Obikwelu Portugal 22 August 2004 Athens
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/100_metres#Fastest_100_metres_runners
Johnny Canuck3
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Do you need a picture of each one of them?
why are few chinese in the track & field events? is it because of their generally short stature and limbs?
Blacks dominate track, especially short distance running events. Why is that?
People of West African descent dominate short-distance events, people from East Africa do very well on long-distance events like marathons.
People of European descent have their own 'sweet spot' and do well on medium-distance events like the 400 metres.
One thing: although many sportsmen of West African descent have very powerful physiques, they don't seem to dominate weightlifting. Maybe Euro strongmen have more stocky builds that are suited to the sport.
King Biscuit Time
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Word.
Lisarocket
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I was wondering last night if us brits have really good powerful thigh muscles which make us better at rowing and cycling (and thinking about it now- weightlifting too). Might be something to do with all the hills we've been tramping up and down on this here island for years.
Strangely though when i mentioned that it might be similar for people of African descent when it came to having the right physique for running i was called a racist
Why can't we discuss these things in a civilised manner without people pointing and yelling racist at every turn.
Treacle Toes
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May also be the fact that we live on an island, have many lakes and rivers, have a healthy relationship with the sea and sailing etc. Also have lots of boating and rowing clubs so access to the sport, funding and training etc.
You can. Right here on this thread in fact.
it's usually fairly light brown people who win in the olympics, the dark black people rarely seem to enter, you usually see a couple making up the numbers in the long distance events but the black people who win them are different to the black people who win the short events
it's also worth observing that the black people who win the olympics are usually from countries which are or were run by white people like america, jamaica or england. this, along with white people being better at sports which require a bit of brainpower or dexterity shows that black people are bigger and stronger, but they don't have the brain power of whites. so it is actually for their own benefit that we colonised africa. if it wasn't for european empires they would still be eating each other instead of winning gold medals, I think the blacks owe us a huge debt of gratitude. and since we apologised for slavery i think they should apologise for eating our vicars in big cauldrons and wearing their top hats
i think asking why black people are good at this and white people are good at this is just stupid, if it makes you feel better having a similar skin colour to someone who is fairly succesful then you are heading for trouble imo. assigning characteristics to people based on race is trouble even if you see them as positive ones.
it's also worth observing that the black people who win the olympics are usually from countries which are or were run by white people like america, jamaica or england. this, along with white people being better at sports which require a bit of brainpower or dexterity shows that black people are bigger and stronger, but they don't have the brain power of whites. so it is actually for their own benefit that we colonised africa. if it wasn't for european empires they would still be eating each other instead of winning gold medals, I think the blacks owe us a huge debt of gratitude. and since we apologised for slavery i think they should apologise for eating our vicars in big cauldrons and wearing their top hats
i think asking why black people are good at this and white people are good at this is just stupid, if it makes you feel better having a similar skin colour to someone who is fairly succesful then you are heading for trouble imo. assigning characteristics to people based on race is trouble even if you see them as positive ones.
Treacle Toes
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Good grief...it's bored again.
P.S...Whilst you clearly understand the purpose of paragraphing you need to revise capitalisation.
P.S...Whilst you clearly understand the purpose of paragraphing you need to revise capitalisation.
Good grief...it's bored again.
i find you referring to me as 'it' dehumanising and racist tbh
Treacle Toes
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goldenecitrone
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Treacle Toes
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I was quite proud of this
but the rest was pretty sub par
You don't say.
Slow day in your village?
