Billboards stating "It's illegal to use a legal name".

[Orang Utan]

Legal Name Fraud

Fucking hell

 

[Miss-Shelf]

I saw one in Liverpool at the weekend
I thought it was some art prank

 

[two sheds]

I may have got that the wrong way round, not that it matters

You what? You fucking what???

"not that it matters"

 

[BigTom]

 

[DotCommunist]

It's utter nonsense is what it is, they reckon the courts have no authority over you if you don't acknowledge then and always write your name in lower case, never capitals, they can't do you for anything.
Historically used by wankers to try to avoid paying council tax and parking fines but had expanded to all kinds of offences.
Began in the usa and over here. Another example of ludicrousness is that you don't tell the judge you understand because this means you stand under then, giving them authority over you. If you say overstand instead they have no authority.
So much crazy stupidity it's hard to know where to begin

at base its just the simplest argument. They have the police and courts, you don't. Incantations will not help you if the words 'take him down' are uttered. You have to wonder how much actual contact these people have had with the realities of the judicial system. And I don't mean ranting in family court when trying to weasel out of his child support obligations

 

[Buddy Bradley]

More here, lots more: Home - Legal Name Fraud

That's quite, um, imaginative.

 

[Libertad]

It's utter nonsense is what it is, they reckon the courts have no authority over you if you don't acknowledge then and always write your name in lower case, never capitals, they can't do you for anything.
Historically used by wankers to try to avoid paying council tax and parking fines but had expanded to all kinds of offences.
Began in the usa and over here. Another example of ludicrousness is that you don't tell the judge you understand because this means you stand under then, giving them authority over you. If you say overstand instead they have no authority.
So much crazy stupidity it's hard to know where to begin

If only you sheeple would real-eyes.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Also seen in Tower Hamlets, Cambridge Heath Road a month or so ago. Gone now.

 

[Treacle Toes]

Who is funding this?

 

[8den]

There's loads of videos of them illegally filming court cases and minor traffic stops. It's monumentally stupid the closest they get to victory is a judge throwing their hands up in despair and adjuring proceeding as they turn into farce

 

[Athos]

You would think that the fact that there's not one single recorded case of such arguments having a scintilla of success would make them question their understanding.

 

[8den]

Or say that you are not John Stubbs. But JOHN of the family STUBBS. And since all the legal documents are addressed to John Stubbs you are not liable....

 

[killer b]

Who is funding this?

A nutters inheritance.

 

[Libertad]

You would think that the fact that there's not one single recorded case of such arguments having a scintilla of success would make them question their understanding.

You'd have thought so but these are people to whom rationality does not come easily.

 

[bi0boy]

They have videos Video - Truth Billboards

 

[Buddy Bradley]

Sovereign Citizens: A Clear and Present Danger

For the most part "sovereign citizens" and their beliefs were not a major concern for law enforcement until two years ago. That's when two West Memphis, Ark., officers—Brandon Paudert and Bill Evans—were murdered by a father and son team of sovereigns during a drug interdiction traffic stop. The sovereigns were later killed in a fierce gun battle in a nearby Walmart parking lot.

 

[Teaboy]

You would think that the fact that there's not one single recorded case of such arguments having a scintilla of success would make them question their understanding.

If I recall from the occasional loon that shows up here they claim quite a few successes. However a bit of a google normally shows that the case was thrown out for slightly more prosaic reasons such as Police fucking up or a decent brief etc. Of course none of that matters to the deluded fucks.

 

[danny la rouge]

Eh? What?

And also: eh?

 

[Spymaster]

The sort who cross their arms and say 'well ACTUALLY, I think you'll find that.....' before spouting a load of ill informed bollocks.

Quite.



Bunch of fucking peanuts.

 

[DotCommunist]

oh thats where the law of the sea bit comes in. God I'd forgotten how shit these people are

 

[blossie33]

I've not seen any in London.

I have, a few but I can't remember where now.

I'd no idea what it was about but thought it might be meaning it was illegal to use a name whose copyright was held by someone else

 

[lazythursday]

It's a bit of a blessing that the sites behind this are so obviously deranged - that might stop more people getting sucked into the FOTL merry-go-round. It was very popular amongst hippy-types near me about four years ago, after some organised events took place by charismatic speakers. It's barmy and tends to attract people with mental health problems who then get sucked down a magical paranoid rabbit hole it can be really hard to come out of.

Surely this must break the advertising standards code in some way?

 

[Pickman's model]

It's a bit of a blessing that the sites behind this are so obviously deranged - that might stop more people getting sucked into the FOTL merry-go-round. It was very popular amongst hippy-types near me about four years ago, after some organised events took place by charismatic speakers. It's barmy and tends to attract people with mental health problems who then get sucked down a magical paranoid rabbit hole it can be really hard to come out of.

Surely this must break the advertising standards code in some way?

yeh, it's bollocks

 

[gawkrodger]

Its like a religion invented by alan patridge

 

[Pickman's model]

 

[two sheds]

Has anyone said what the 'illegal to use a legal name' actually means? Is it a protest because he got banged up for trying to use one, or a statement of fact )), or ...

And does it also mean that it's now legal to use an illegal name?

We should be told.

 

[Smangus]

I've not seen any in London.

Dey here in Catford dude. SE6 is loon central...

 

[danny la rouge]

This is not an apple.

 

[Pickman's model]

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This is not an apple.

 

[Spymaster]

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They call all identity documents "legal fictions".

In the video above, one of the piss-tubes, apparently standing as a "lay advisor", produces the "legal fiction" in this case the defendants birth certificate instead of the defendant.