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Big Tommy Liar Nicked in Perjury Probe

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Sheridan held over perjury probe

Former socialist MSP Tommy Sheridan has been detained in connection with a police inquiry into perjury allegations.

The claims surfaced following Mr Sheridan's defamation case against the News of the World.

A spokesman for Lothian and Borders Police confirmed a 43-year-old man had been detained in Edinburgh.​

Continued: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/scotland/7146907.stm

Poor old Tommy! All he did was lie through his teeth, shit all over his comrades and split the SSP. Now he's at risk of prosecution for perjury.

We, and he, will just have to hope that the Scottish equivalent of the CPS decides not to prosecute him.

We wouldn't want him to end up in fibbers' prison like Archer and Aitken, would we?

Damn - I can't change the typo in the thread title.
 
Chickens come home to roost. It was only a matter of time.

The SWP members who (allegedly) perjured themselves on Sheridan's behalf had better get some good lawyers too.
 
nwnm said:
not Nick Wrack then....
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I think you will find the Scottish and English legal systems are seperate. A lawyer qualified under English law has to retrain and pass seperate exams before they can practice in Scotland.
 
Fisher_Gate said:
Chickens come home to roost. It was only a matter of time.

The SWP members who (allegedly) perjured themselves on Sheridan's behalf had better get some good lawyers too.
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I wonder how long it will be, before you turn on salma yaqoob, like you've turned on Sheridan, Rees and German, all of whom you have in the past supported?
 
Considering the politics of those involved, Sheridan's and Murdoch's, and the subject matter...ie sex, I always found the whole thing Clintonesque.
 
cutandsplice said:
I wonder how long it will be, before you turn on salma yaqoob, like you've turned on Sheridan, Rees and German, all of whom you have in the past supported?
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Sheridan and Rees have condemned themselves by their own actions. It doesn't need me to do anything.

I don't think I've ever said anything condemning about German. The only thing of note she's done that I said I didn't support was her condemnation at the Respect conference of ISG members who asked for a commitment to gay rights to be included in the Respect manifesto, as 'islamaphobic'. That the SWP are going to drop her as SWP-Respect candidate for London Mayor is their choice, not mine.
 
I wonder why they might do that? I mean, surely she can stand as a strong independent candidate with GG's backing? Surely she wouldn't be damaged by holding a proud anti-communalist banner aloft for all to see? (and getting no votes)
 
DexterTCN said:
Considering the politics of those involved, Sheridan's and Murdoch's, and the subject matter...ie sex, I always found the whole thing Clintonesque.
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I'm reluctant to go through all the arguments again, but I have to point out that Big Tommy and the publishers of the News of the Screws were not the only people involved in the whole sorry tale. Tommy expected his comrades to perjure themselves for him. They tried to withhold party minutes that incriminated Big Tommy. One went to prison briefly for refusing to hand over the minutes. But, quite rightly, most of them wouldn't commit perjury in the cause of Big Tommy's lies and vanity. Big Tommy called them scabs and liars and he split the SSP.

Tommy had been, in his own smallish way, an impressive politician and, for some, quite a hero. By the standards of Trots, he was a popular character. I believe he had the ear of a section of the Scottish working class. But, like a tragic hero, he was brought down by a character flaw. The important flaw was not his alleged taste in affairs or his less-easy-to-understand liking for some silly 'sex club'. His flaw was his vanity. He could have let the gossip in the News of the Screws pass. Many other people - more sensible people - have. Big Tommy's vanity would not allow him to do that. Like Archer and like Aitken, two other very vain and dishonest men, he preferred to sue. Strangely, Tommy 'won' the case - but at great political cost. He destroyed the party he had done so much to create. And he remains at risk of going to prison - just like Archer and Aitken.
 
The last thing this is is Clintonesque. It isn't about sex, it is about a class traitor betraying his own people because he couldn't face up to his responsibilities. Nobody gives a shit about his swinging. Doesn't matter a fuck, but what does matter is how he dragged everyone into the mire with his cowardly kicking and screaming.

He was given good advice by his colleagues, and he chose not to take it. He sued the NotW. He should not have.

I heard him on the News just now. As usual he is failing to take responsibility for his own actions. Well, Hell mind him; he is a class traitor who tried to hang out his own comrades to dry, putting them in an impossible situation, dragging his former lovers through the courts and the glare of publicity, wrecking their lives, calling them liars when it was he who was the liar, and splitting the most successful parliamentary socialist party since the ILP. All his doing, all of it avoidable, and all in the vain hope of salving his personal vanity. Twat.
 
Does this mean that the "court cases" rules now kick in regarding what people can and cannot say now that he's been charged?
 
Fisher_Gate said:
I think you will find the Scottish and English legal systems are seperate. A lawyer qualified under English law has to retrain and pass seperate exams before they can practice in Scotland.
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Just as it should be, IMO.
 
Prince Rhyus said:
Does this mean that the "court cases" rules now kick in regarding what people can and cannot say now that he's been charged?
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Yes. Now that charges have been laid and court proceedings begun, the sub judice rules means that we are limited in what can be said about the case.
 
Lock&Light said:
Just as it should be, IMO.
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I support Scottish self-determination, so I agree that it is right for Scotland to have its own legal system and training system for lawyers, if that is what the people in Scotland want.
 
Purjury ..

Shame it only applies in court, might be nice if it applied to more political ramblings, perhaps ALL political utterances.
 
JHE said:
Perjury. Please don't adopt my mistake from the thread title.
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Aha, well "purjury" was an imporvement on my first typing of it which came out as "pergery" :)

Still think politicians have far too much licence and as most of what they speak is designed to get us to vote for them their utterances should be subject to the same law as applied to lying in court!
 
Solidarity has spoken.
We believe, in this case, that there exists the strong possibility of collusion involving sections of the Scottish legal establishment and Lothian and Borders Police, responding to pressure being exerted by News International, a multinational news and media corporation owned by a man who hardly pays a penny of UK income tax but who exerts, though his various newspapers, an inordinate and corrupting influence over the body politic of this country. The sole aim of News International in all of this from the very beginning has been to destroy the reputation of a prominent socialist and political figure in Scotland because of his political convictions and, more, his effectiveness in communicating those convictions. Tommy Sheridan’s only crime, the real reason that the NotW have gone after him, is that he has spent his entire adult life speaking truth to power, in so doing threatening their own interest in maintaining a status quo of inequality, racism, poverty, and a weak and fractured trade union movement. Some may claim that in this we are delving into the realms of conspiracy theory.​
Indeed they might.
 
Fullyplumped said:
Solidarity has spoken.
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The sole aim of News International in all of this from the very beginning has been to destroy the reputation of a prominent socialist and political figure in Scotland because of his political convictions and, more, his effectiveness in communicating those convictions.​
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That'll be it. It's nothing to do with the way the News of the Screws makes money by flogging papers that are full of sexual tittle-tattle about all sorts of famous and semi-famous people, including politicians from the Tory Party, the Lib Dems, Labour and so on. No, no - it's different with Big Tommy. Entirely different. Honest.
 
won't this doublly fuck him if he's found guilty in that the news of the shit have been told they had to wait to appeal until this matter had been resolved... so just as this case is ripening and beign ready to serve he'll then have to go back into court for the appeal :D

can't we get blair to sue for summit :D :D
 
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