Beauty products that actually work

[QOTH]

Hi I just come on here to ask about the Ordinary stuff - The Ordinary | Clinical Formulations with Integrity | A DECIEM Brand So thanks Plumdaff

I'm older, mid 50s, with the sort of fine lines and dry patchy bits that makeup doesn't sit well on. I don't get on with a whole load of products and a lot of creams make me want to scratch my face off, and the price of most stuff makes me want to weep. However I've no idea which of these acids/ oils/ emulsions do or what I need, there is so much unscientific bollocks written about beauty stuff I hardly know where to start.

Since I cant afford expensive stuff anymore I've tried Boots products, Simple products and some random shit. Mostly they make me itch, or my eyes water or they are useless. If they work for me I find the next time I try to buy them they have changed them. I end up using them up on my body as I hate to waste them. I'm alergic to something, but don't know what - I'm hoping its the extra perfume/ colour / otherstuff, that's why these single ingredient products look interesting.

and what do you think QOTH ? Has everyone else tried these?

My Deciem stuff arrived today - will report back. I was hoping for some kind of information leaflet or something to tell me what to do with it but aside from very minimal info on the box, you're on your own. So, this is my planned routine:

AM - bog standard facial wash (I use boots unscented usually) then
1) Buffet
2) Hyaluronic Acid
3) BHA lotion (not from deciem, I use Paula's Choice)
4) Maybe moisturiser? That seems a lot of goo

PM - bog standard facial wash (maybe makeup remover if I've been wearing any)
1) Buffet
2) Hyaluronic Acid
3) BHA lotion (Two lots of BHA might be too much with retinoid, can scale this back if needed).
4) Retinoid (maybe start with once every few days to see what my tolerance of it is like. Get the impression less is more)

I've never been much of a one for skincare routines (lucky genes) because I'm not a morning person so the chances of me doing this religiously twice a day is pretty remote tbf.

I will report back. Could always do before and after pics!

 

[Yu_Gi_Oh]

I would tend to do BHA and then use Hyaluronic Acid after it's dried. But I would also use a retinol before anything moisturizing too. Not sure if I'd use BHA at the same time as retinol. Maybe retinoid at night and BHA in the morning?

My hypothetical regime, which I would do if I could remember to buy more retinol would be:

Morning:
Wash face.
BHA (wait to dry)
Hyaluronic Acid
Moisturizer if weather extreme.

Evening.
Wash face
retinol (left to sink in for as long as possible)
Hyaluronic acid
Moisturizer

 

[Plumdaff]

My regime is:
AM
Soap and Glory Cleansing Wash
Ordinary Buffet
Ordinary Hyaluronic
Posh Xmas present spray mist thing
You must use a moisturiser with sunscreen if you're using retinol in the PM. I use a bog standard moisturizer then a BB cream that's factor 25. If I'm being lazy I'll miss everything but the BB cream if I've used a retinol.

PM
Cleansing Balm
Ordinary Buffet
Ordinary Retinol
Ordinary Rosehip Oil
(Sometimes) Posh Xmas Night Cream

Every couple of days I use an acid toner wipe in the am, my skin won't tolerate it more often.

 

[QOTH]

Do you still need sunscreen if you're applying the retinol at night and spend most of your time indoors? (and if you live somewhere were it rains pretty much every day like a dismal grey narnia ) .

Not that it's a problem, just means I need to buy moisturizer...

 

[Ms T]

I took advantage of the M&S 20% off weekend to get an Emma Hardie set including the balm cleanser (which is amazing), facial oil, moisturising treatment masque and a couple of other things. £108 worth of products for £40. The facial oil and masque are both brilliant.

 

[bubblesmcgrath]

I've used argan oil for ages....but today I was given Olay regenerist CC cream...colour corrector... . It felt lovely on and looked lovely and dewy...for about 20 minutes, until my face started to feel like the skin was being boiled off it. I washed it off immediately, but the burning sensation is still there and I feel like the top layer of my skin has been burnt off. I have red blotches all over my face and I just know it'll be at least 10 days before this heals up.

I checked online about allergic reactions to this cream...I really wish I'd checked before using it. Lots of issues with it causing allergic reactions.

Just wanted to let people know. Olay has a name for being skin friendly, but this is awful stuff.



Ps. I will probably have lovely soft new skin .... in about 3 weeks...

 

[Plumdaff]

(and if you live somewhere were it rains pretty much every day like a dismal grey narnia ) .

Not that it's a problem, just means I need to buy moisturizer...

I live in South Wales and I use sunscreen. I would.

 

[QOTH]

I live in South Wales and I use sunscreen. I would.

I found some boots protect and perfect day cream with SPF 15 in a gift set I got for christmas so have lobbed that on this morning.

I feel like an actual lady now

 

[bubblesmcgrath]

I'm in Ireland and the weather is pretty cloudy a lot of the time...not to mention wet. However, I do use sunscreen.. factor 50 if possible. My dad, a typical fair skinned Irish man, developed skin cancer a few years ago and so did both my aunts. None of them ever had a "sun" holiday in a hot country, so it's all down to being outdoors in Irish weather without much protection...

I lather on the sunscreen too because I'm on meds that make my skin photosensitive. Ideally a factor 50 foundation would be great...anyone know if such a thing exists ?

 

[QOTH]

I'm in Ireland and the weather is pretty cloudy a lot of the time...not to mention wet. However, I do use sunscreen.. factor 50 if possible. My dad, a typical fair skinned Irish man, developed skin cancer a few years ago and so did both my aunts. None of them ever had a "sun" holiday in a hot country, so it's all down to being outdoors in Irish weather without much protection...

I lather on the sunscreen too because I'm on meds that make my skin photosensitive. Idealluy a factor 50 foundation would be great...anyone know if such a thing exists ?

More a tinted moisturizer, but Clinique's city block is pretty high factor - they do a factor 25 and a factor 45. It's OK on a good skin day with a bit of concealer - might be a bit heavy under foundation though.

IIRC the factor 45 is a chemical sunscreen (avobenzone or similar) and the lower factor one is a physical sunscreen (zinc oxide or some kind of mineral) which is less likely to be allergenic. I might have got that the wrong way round though.

 

[Ms T]

I'm in Ireland and the weather is pretty cloudy a lot of the time...not to mention wet. However, I do use sunscreen.. factor 50 if possible. My dad, a typical fair skinned Irish man, developed skin cancer a few years ago and so did both my aunts. None of them ever had a "sun" holiday in a hot country, so it's all down to being outdoors in Irish weather without much protection...

I lather on the sunscreen too because I'm on meds that make my skin photosensitive. Ideally a factor 50 foundation would be great...anyone know if such a thing exists ?

La Roche Posay and Bioderma both do a tinted sunscreen that is Factor 50. In terms of foundation, there is Diorskin Cushion - very spendy though.

 

[izz]

bubblesmcgrath, MAC do a factor 50 primer.

 

[izz]

This Makeup Revolution Eye Primer Liquid Aqua Seal 9g. In the days before hooded eyes and eyeliner that stayed where it was meant to I would have harrumphed at the very idea. Not today, no, not after the cheap black eyeliner stayed in place all day and didn't transfer onto my hooded over-eyebags.

 

[such and such]

The last time I looked for a foundation was years ago and couldn't find anything to work with my skin tone (I'm pale with cool undertones). Almost everything else makes me look orange
But finally got colour matched today in a fancy make up store and spent a shitload of money on a NARS foundation.

Anyway, I have pretty large pores along my cheeks and on my forehead just above my nose so am I am worried about the foundation settling into my pores. Can anyone suggest what to do to avoid this? Or even recommend a not too pricey primer? Cheers

 

[miss direct]

Glycolic acid products have transformed my skin.

 

[Flipstick]

The last time I looked for a foundation was years ago and couldn't find anything to work with my skin tone (I'm pale with cool undertones). Almost everything else makes me look orange
But finally got colour matched today in a fancy make up store and spent a shitload of money on a NARS foundation.

Anyway, I have pretty large pores along my cheeks and on my forehead just above my nose so am I am worried about the foundation settling into my pores. Can anyone suggest what to do to avoid this? Or even recommend a not too pricey primer? Cheers

The ordinary does a couple of primers that Wayne Goss raved over. He is on YouTube, go and have a look.
One is for oily and one for dryer skin and they are about £6 each.

 

[bimble]

Glycolic acid products have transformed my skin.

The name is kind of scary, like if you do it wrong you might burn your face off so I've never tried this stuff. Can you recommend an actual product (lotion or peel or whatever) with it in that you like please?

 

[gaijingirl]

I lather on the sunscreen too because I'm on meds that make my skin photosensitive. Ideally a factor 50 foundation would be great...anyone know if such a thing exists ?

Ultrasun do a tinted suncream SPF 50+ which also claims to be anti-ageing and moisturising.

Tinted Face SPF 50+ 50ml | M&S

I got some last summer for holidays and quite liked it - but it's definitely not as much cover as a foundation.

 

[Biddlybee]

nm

 

[such and such]

The name is kind of scary, like if you do it wrong you might burn your face off so I've never tried this stuff. Can you recommend an actual product (lotion or peel or whatever) with it in that you like please?

I know it sounds scary but it basically exfoliates the skin. I use pads from Nip and Fab at night which I don't find to be too strong. Someone else can probably explain better than me

 

[Plumdaff]

Caroline Hirons does some good 'cheat sheets'

Anti Ageing - even if you're not in need of anti ageing stuff, this has some useful information about various ingredients and this one is about acids in particular.

My overall advice would be be gentle. When I first started with acids I went gung ho twice a day and upset my skin. I use acid pads every other day, once a day, I have dry somewhat sensitive skin, so I stick to glycolic products.

 

[spanglechick]

I can't wear moisturiser in the morning because I don't have time for it to absorb before makeup... However, I love Teint Miracle by Lancôme, which has spf15, is light enough to not to need meticulous application and really makes everything look brighter and more even. Also, although I don't look rosy, I find most foundations are too yellow toned for me, but this has a perfect ever so slightly pink toned beige (lys rose 02) which is a perfect match.

 

[Shirl]

I can't wear moisturiser in the morning because I don't have time for it to absorb before makeup... However, I love Teint Miracle by Lancôme, which has spf15, is light enough to not to need meticulous application and really makes everything look brighter and more even. Also, although I don't look rosy, I find most foundations are too yellow toned for me, but this has a perfect ever so slightly pink toned beige (lys rose 02) which is a perfect match.

Is that a light weight foundation? I need something new. I've been wearing a Dior tinted moisturiser for about 5 years now but I want something with slightly more cover. I can't wear anything heavy as it really ageing on already old skin.

 

[spanglechick]

Is that a light weight foundation? I need something new. I've been wearing a Dior tinted moisturiser for about 5 years now but I want something with slightly more cover. I can't wear anything heavy as it really ageing on already old skin.

Yup, gives coverage but only very light. It's £30, so get them to give you a little sample.

 

[Shirl]

Yup, gives coverage but only very light. It's £30, so get them to give you a little sample.

Thanks. I'll probably buy it at the time if I see it and like it. I'll need to go specially to Leeds to Manchester to get it. If I'm making an effort I want instant reward

 

[Ms T]

Is that a light weight foundation? I need something new. I've been wearing a Dior tinted moisturiser for about 5 years now but I want something with slightly more cover. I can't wear anything heavy as it really ageing on already old skin.

I'm testing Chanel's Les Beiges at the moment and like it a lot. It's medium coverage.

 

[miss direct]

The name is kind of scary, like if you do it wrong you might burn your face off so I've never tried this stuff. Can you recommend an actual product (lotion or peel or whatever) with it in that you like please?

I use all the nip and fab products...scrub, pads and gel. I do have very oily skin though. My skin is a bit pink as a result but looks a lot better.

 

[purenarcotic]

If anyone is looking for a good body scrub then soap and glory flake away is fab. Smells lush and leaves skin soft and moisturised afterwards. Their oaty one is also nice but is quite sweet smelling.

 

[May Kasahara]

A friend gave me some of the Lacura (Aldi) anti-ageing stuff. It works really well, in that it makes my skin look way younger in some indefinable way. Sadly I have had the most epic breakout of huge, angry, boilesque red spots in years I can't prove a link between the two but given that's the only change in my skin routine, I don't really want to use the rest.

 

[oryx]

boilesque

great adjective.

I have pretty insensitive skin but this reminds me of the time I bought Max Factor foundation for £1.25 (yes it was a few years ago) from East Street market in the Elephant and had a similar reaction.

May not have been genuine Max Factor, but that brand did give me problems (remembers purple eye pencil & weepy eyes).