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Beating the Fascists: The authorised history of Anti-Fascist Action

if they are your ideal phil, thats up to you love!!!!!
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malatesta32 said:
if they are your ideal phil, thats up to you love!!!!!
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to be honest with you mate it's you who seems to be fixating on john inman

From elsewhere:
"During the 1970s, in sitcoms such as Man about the House (1973) and Are You Being Served? (1973), the genre’s study of failure became a high camp exercise in dignity outraged and masculinity disempowered, reaching a high point of slapstick with Michael Crawford’s Some Mothers Do ‘Ave ‘Em (1973) and its catch-phrase ‘Oo, Betty!’...

Similarly, the staff of Grace Bros. department store in Are You Being Served? played out a hugely complex algebra of sexual and social status, the tensions of which could turn a slightly raised eyebrow into the equivalent of a hurled ashtray. Innuendo, itself a consequence of archaism, is everything in this branch of sitcom, a veneering of gentility across plainly sexual banter. Innuendo denotes a repressive society in which formality is the constraint on feelings. Hence, in Are You Being Served? Mrs Slocombe’s glorious riposte to Captain Peacock, who has got hold of her cat during the pitch darkness of a power cut: ‘Captain Peacock! Will you please remove your hand from my pussy!’"
 
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Nice one said:
to be honest with you mate it's you who seems to be fixating on john inman

From elsewhere:
"During the 1970s, in sitcoms such as Man about the House (1973) and Are You Being Served? (1973), the genre’s study of failure became a high camp exercise in dignity outraged and masculinity disempowered, reaching a high point of slapstick with Michael Crawford’s Some Mothers Do ‘Ave ‘Em (1973) and its catch-phrase ‘Oo, Betty!’...

Similarly, the staff of Grace Bros. department store in Are You Being Served? played out a hugely complex algebra of sexual and social status, the tensions of which could turn a slightly raised eyebrow into the equivalent of a hurled ashtray. Innuendo, itself a consequence of archaism, is everything in this branch of sitcom, a veneering of gentility across plainly sexual banter. Innuendo denotes a repressive society in which formality is the constraint on feelings. Hence, in Are You Being Served? Mrs Slocombe’s glorious riposte to Captain Peacock, who has got hold of her cat during the pitch darkness of a power cut: ‘Captain Peacock! Will you please remove your hand from my pussy!’"
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A mate of mine once interviewed David Croft, the main writer of Are You Being Served? Apparently Croft took major umbridge at the suggestion that Mr. Humphreys was homosexual, and insisted that he was just a "mummy's boy."

Actually it's true that there are surprisingly few explicit references to homosexuality in the scripts--I can only think of one, when Mr. Lucas says "there was a man there but he's gone," and Mr. H. pouts "ooh, story of my life!" And sometimes Humphreys would join Lucas in ogling Miss Brahms. I think he's intended to be straight but effeminate, weird as that seems today.
 
malatesta32 said:
fair enough. i hate the perry and croft stuff tho, nostalgic english bollocks.
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fair play. The actual quote, when written out in full, was more a statement on british high street fashion afforded to young people at the time rather than crass tv sitcoms: "In the early 1970s when I was a teenager, the high street was still hopeless, a fashion desert: Are You Being Served? was as much social realism as ribald sitcom".
 
From the recently launched blog on UKIP by the academics Robert Ford and Matthew Goodwin:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukipwatch/100256765/meet-ukip-britains-most-working-class-party/:

"Ukip has only recruited most strongly from the Conservative Party since the Cameron-led government began. When Labour were in charge of the country under Tony Blair, and then Gordon Brown, Ukip picked up more support from Labour than from the Tories... This is important, as it provides evidence that this revolt on the Right can mobilise hostility to whoever is in charge. Labour may currently be smiling as Ukip drains support from the Conservatives, but the tables may soon turn if Ed Miliband enters 10 Downing Street in 2015, and his party again becomes the focus of voter resentment.

"Ukip's supporters look more like Old Labour than True Blue Tories. Ukip's supporters tend to be blue-collar, older, struggling economically, and often live in poorer, urban areas, with big pools of support in the Labour heartlands of the North. Middle-class suburbanites do not dominate Ukip. They shy away from it. In fact, Ukip are Britain’s most working-class party. Blue-collar workers are heavily over-represented. Middle-class professionals are scarce. Such voters often express as much hostility to the Conservative party as they do to Labour."


http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/u...-dave-but-they-cant-stand-ed-miliband-either/:

"Ukip doesn't only mobilise a general popular antipathy to the political establishment; they are also winning support by tapping in to specific hostility to the two parties' main leaders. In different ways, both David Cameron, the Etonian Oxford graduate from the stockbroker belt, and Ed Miliband, the Oxford-educated policy wonk from the North London intelligentsia, alienate the struggling blue-collar voters who are defecting en masse to Ukip.

"Both leaders have led lives a million miles away from the life of the average Ukip voter. This makes it hard for them to credibly claim to understand or represent the struggles of these voters who feel insecure, left behind and angry. Nigel Farage is, too, the son of privilege, but his task as a leader is an easier one – he does not need to bargain with voters over what is and is not possible politically, as mainstream leaders must, he needs only to give voice to their anger and channel their demands, something he does very effectively."
 
Red O said:
From the recently launched blog on UKIP by the academics Robert Ford and Matthew Goodwin:
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http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/u...-dave-but-they-cant-stand-ed-miliband-either/:

"Ukip doesn't only mobilise a general popular antipathy to the political establishment; they are also winning support by tapping in to specific hostility to the two parties' main leaders. In different ways, both David Cameron, the Etonian Oxford graduate from the stockbroker belt, and Ed Miliband, the Oxford-educated policy wonk from the North London intelligentsia, alienate the struggling blue-collar voters who are defecting en masse to Ukip.
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For a blog that declared itself independent, that looks an awful lot like the Telegraph's earlier leaders hoping to get rid of Cameron in favour of some red-blooded Rightist.

Or, as it turned out, drive him to enunciate the Barclay Brothers' (and Astor) polcies.
 
Red O said:
From the recently launched blog on UKIP by the academics Robert Ford and Matthew Goodwin:

http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukipwatch/100256765/meet-ukip-britains-most-working-class-party/:

"Ukip has only recruited most strongly from the Conservative Party since the Cameron-led government began. When Labour were in charge of the country under Tony Blair, and then Gordon Brown, Ukip picked up more support from Labour than from the Tories... This is important, as it provides evidence that this revolt on the Right can mobilise hostility to whoever is in charge. Labour may currently be smiling as Ukip drains support from the Conservatives, but the tables may soon turn if Ed Miliband enters 10 Downing Street in 2015, and his party again becomes the focus of voter resentment.

"Ukip's supporters look more like Old Labour than True Blue Tories. Ukip's supporters tend to be blue-collar, older, struggling economically, and often live in poorer, urban areas, with big pools of support in the Labour heartlands of the North. Middle-class suburbanites do not dominate Ukip. They shy away from it. In fact, Ukip are Britain’s most working-class party. Blue-collar workers are heavily over-represented. Middle-class professionals are scarce. Such voters often express as much hostility to the Conservative party as they do to Labour."


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Begs the question why the left fails to engage with what should be their natural homeland
 
The39thStep said:
Begs the question why the left fails to engage with what should be their natural homeland
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There's also a question of more immediate and not unrelated interest, and that is why according to reports, both UKIP and the BNP are being allowed an entirely free run in the by-election in Wythenshawe and Sale?

It's not so much that the Left aren't visibly campaigning for an ideological rival, which is bad enough, but where are the anti-fascists organisations whose reason for being is to stop or at least challenge the anti-immigrant right 'on the streets', even if only in a symbolic way?

Surely it's a new low when the only people to 'confront' Farage and entourage are the BNP?
 
According to a friend who grew up round there, and whose mum has worked with him. Whether that will count for much as against perception of the greens as middle-class do gooding Ken Barlow's is another question. But hopefully it will mean the election isn't entirely without a challenge to Labour that isn't UKIP/BNP
 
articul8 said:
According to a friend who grew up round there, and whose mum has worked with him. Whether that will count for much as against perception of the greens as middle-class do gooding Ken Barlow's is another question. But hopefully it will mean the election isn't entirely without a challenge to Labour that isn't UKIP/BNP
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He's a lecturer and is off on an eco-protest as we speak. In fact fracking seems to be his central campaign issue. Ex-labour. This is the wrong thread for this i think anyway, given the existing one.
 
Joe Reilly said:
There's also a question of more immediate and not unrelated interest, and that is why according to reports, both UKIP and the BNP are being allowed an entirely free run in the by-election in Wythenshawe and Sale?

It's not so much that the Left aren't visibly campaigning for an ideological rival, which is bad enough, but where are the anti-fascists organisations whose reason for being is to stop or at least challenge the anti-immigrant right 'on the streets', even if only in a symbolic way?

Surely it's a new low when the only people to 'confront' Farage and entourage are the BNP?
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Have come across at least five people locally who have gone out of their way to say that they are voting UKIP in the byelection. Normally it wouldn't create any interest.
 
articul8 said:
According to a friend who grew up round there, and whose mum has worked with him. Whether that will count for much as against perception of the greens as middle-class do gooding Ken Barlow's is another question. But hopefully it will mean the election isn't entirely without a challenge to Labour that isn't UKIP/BNP
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Not entirely sure that currently there is a popular perception of Ken Barlow as a do gooder tbh
 
nino_savatte said:
The NBU has actually gone and published the names and email addresses of its officers online. I also noticed that they have an officer for The Netherlands. When did the UK annex Holland? Delusions? I've made a copy of the list in case they take the page down.
http://newbritishunion .co .uk/nbu-officers.html
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Whose email address is Wicca333 ....

I'd break that link if I were you. I copied and pasted it, so they can find the IP address my ISP gave me for today but not Urbanz.
 
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