Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
You can. But the content creators are forced to comply with you tubes ‘terms and conditions of use’ or they are gone. Even plastic lefts like Novara regularly fall foul of them
BBC license fee ‘to be abolished in 2027’. What will that mean?
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You can. But the content creators are forced to comply with you tubes ‘terms and conditions of use’ or they are gone. Even plastic lefts like Novara regularly fall foul of them
mauvais
on reddit or something
You can do it without big tech, but you need state-level money, £billions, to build and sustain such platforms. And, though older but still relevant, the physical networks like the UK's radio and TV transmission networks, which the BBC funds.
Although having said that, most of the BBC is now based on AWS, so maybe not.
Almost as if folk resent paying a regressive tax for another institution under Public school boy control and their overpaid entertainers.
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
Even given those conditions, the barrier to entry is still lower than that of broadcast TV, and the content can still be more radical than anything you're likely to see on the BBC. Creators on YouTube are also not necessarily dependent on the measly share of advertising revenue that Google doles out, thanks to donation platforms like Patreon.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
Genuine Q: who and how many are watching?
And I ask as someone who routinely watches hours of YouTube a day.
At least on youtube everyone has a voice. Yes it doesn't compete with high budget productions, but then again whose voices do they tend to be?
marty21
One on one? You're crazy.
You can subscribe for £11.99 a month but #fuckthat
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
I expect they do. But, that doesn’t mean they are right. As I’ve said up thread if you don’t think that the concept of public service broadcasting worth defending - rather than the BBC as is - then we aren’t going to agree
I don't think it'll go though. It's the closest a neoliberal society has to a state broadcast mouthpiece. Just look at the kid gloves with Andrew. He basically hung himself!
NoXion
Craicy the Squirrel
The political channels I'm subbed to include (in no particular order, I just went through the list of channels on the left of the YouTube main page and picked them out):
Chapo Trap House
The Serfs
the bread is rising (alt channel The Serfs set up when they were temp banned)
Hakim
NonCompete
donoteat01
hbomberguy
Shaun
Jim Sterling (gaming focused but very political about it)
Adam Something (my most recent addition IIRC)
ContraPoints
Three Arrows
Angie Speaks
Philosophy Tube
I think that's the lot. Not sure what the total viewership of all that would be, I'm sure there's some overlap but I have no idea how much. Feel free to check out the links and check for yourself how many subscribers and views they have if you fancy having a go at making an estimate yourself.
My son mostly watches youtube. Whatever games / toys / movies he's interested in he goes there first for additional viewing. Which makes sense as simply turning on the TV won't do any of that.
Lord Camomile
Yipchaa!
8ball
Maximum Facepalm
You can subscribe for £11.99 a month but #fuckthat
I’d guess it’s mostly just media orgs paying people to keep an eye on YouTube that will pay for this.
bimble
floofy
If the bbc stopped existing tomorrow I’d be fine, it’s just that i don’t think that’s the point, the idea that the people who rely on it will start watching radical stuff on youtube instead is just nuts. If the bbc had disappeared last year GBNews would have done well out if & maybe the Disney channel or whatever is out there for kids idk, not your favourite niche youtube channel.
Rob Ray
Weight is meaningless
krtek a houby
Anger is Hi-NRG
Feel bad for all the thousands of workers who's jobs will be in jeopardy. The majority who don't work in front of a camera, or make policy decisions. The drivers, the security, the post rooms, the kitchen staff, the porters, the cleaners, the IT staff, the production assistants, etc.
It's an easy target, the BBC. And in many cases, deservedly so. But it will be sad to see it sink, all the same.
It's an easy target, the BBC. And in many cases, deservedly so. But it will be sad to see it sink, all the same.
bimble
floofy
Yep. A load of ‘look a squirrel’ designed to delight the right wing press & members whilst Johnson is in hiding. Nice to see that the navy are already saying no thanks to the loudly announced job of sending refugees back into the sea or whatever the other big plan was.
Although, as an anarchist, I'm surprised you support the current BBC funding.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
I don’t remember him saying he did.
“Rely on it”?
bimble
floofy
They should take up hobbies instead.
fair point. I made an assumption.
I don’t care what they do, but I’ve yet to meet somebody who “relies on” the BBC, apart from people who work for it.
danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
For their viewing needs. You know, people who have a different taste in viewing to you.
bimble
floofy
For their news & entertainment I meant obvs. Not for their survival.
mauvais
on reddit or something
What I said aside, you're the first on the thread to mention jobs so props to you.
FYI as far as I'm aware only two of the roles you listed are employed directly by the BBC, so I guess you can add at least a few thousand to the official headcount of 22k.
We'll see who loses theirs in the next cuts announcements in a few months I guess. Last time it was mostly local journalists.
krtek a houby
Anger is Hi-NRG
Librarians. Forgot the librarians. And designers. And researchers.
Well, I’m not convinced that hyperbole is going to convince the skeptical.
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