BBC announced collapse of WT7 before it happened!
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8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
Jazzz said:Oh come off it. You and TA both attacked me vehemently for saying that the core wouldn't stand up on its own or take the entire weight of the WTC and I comprehensively kicked your butts, managing to understand the NIST report and its DCR calculations far better than TA, and compressive strength better than MikeMMC - at least he had the ability to stand corrected unlike TA who carried on bleating that he was right
It must be nice to go through life unfettered by mere trivial things like facts and reality.
Is it possible that the time of the collapse has been wrongly recorded perhaps when the collapse was verified rather than the second it happened, but that the collapse was first reported very soon after the collapse?
Or is it possible that the loony website linked to might have made something up?
I know this is a bit far fetched and that it is much more likely that a massive conspiracy orchestrated these events to the last detail and controlled the reporting of them minute by minute but managed to release a report before they detonated a building with huge amounts of explosives no-one had noticed. But no-one noticed this devistating bit of info until years later because the reportage had yet to be trawled over by the defenders of truth against the lizards.
Or is it possible that the loony website linked to might have made something up?
I know this is a bit far fetched and that it is much more likely that a massive conspiracy orchestrated these events to the last detail and controlled the reporting of them minute by minute but managed to release a report before they detonated a building with huge amounts of explosives no-one had noticed. But no-one noticed this devistating bit of info until years later because the reportage had yet to be trawled over by the defenders of truth against the lizards.
Jazzz said:
I wish you wouldn't.
corporate whore
oh, thought you were dead
Can I just add my voice to the others on this thread who work/have worked in a newsroom - in the rush to be 'first with the news' mistakes are made, every day. Some are big, some are small, some are significant, others can be quietly brushed under the carpet and in the heat of a huge story like the one we're dealing with some can be forgotten.
Covering 9/11 the BBC would have been relying heavily on other sources for news - wires, agencies, other TV and radio news - and running stuff as soon as they picked it up, 'cos that's the way rolling news works. The other way it works is never admit you were wrong - hence that Sky motto 'never wrong for long' mentioned earlier
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For want of a life I've read almost all your conspiranoid ramblings Jazz and you're getting inceasingly desparate. This is shit. Give it up.
Covering 9/11 the BBC would have been relying heavily on other sources for news - wires, agencies, other TV and radio news - and running stuff as soon as they picked it up, 'cos that's the way rolling news works. The other way it works is never admit you were wrong - hence that Sky motto 'never wrong for long' mentioned earlier
.For want of a life
I've read almost all your conspiranoid ramblings Jazz and you're getting inceasingly desparate. This is shit. Give it up.It's not on the actual page linked to, but a few pages on (depending on your posts per page, I suppose). Easiest thing is to go by the time of posting.Jazzz said:
Perhaps ... it was becoming quite obvious that the WTC7 was about to collapse, therefore the info went out that WTC7 was collapsing, and the broadcasters wrongly stated that it had collapsed. A bit later, it did collapse.Jazzz said:
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Other than that one point which is an utter irrelevance, you had your arse handed to you consistently.Jazzz said:Oh come off it. You and TA both attacked me vehemently for saying that the core wouldn't stand up on its own or take the entire weight of the WTC and I comprehensively kicked your butts, managing to understand the NIST report and its DCR calculations far better than TA, and compressive strength better than MikeMMC - at least he had the ability to stand corrected unlike TA who carried on bleating that he was right
But who cares? You certainly don't.
As for how the Beeb got it:
Joe blogs fireman : WTC 7 looks like it's going to collapse!
Reporter: You wot? WTC is collapsing!?
Reporter in news room : WTC7 collapsed!
Loons: You're all in on it!
You have failed to show why the hell this is of any relevance. How your explanation (ie the jews made them do it) is more likely than the common sense interpretation or make more than a strawman argument against it.
Barking_Mad
Non sibi sed omnibus
Yet another 9/11 thread there dozens of people claim not to be interested in a stupid conspiracy yet keep posting.
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
Yet again you're talking shit Jazzz.Jazzz said:
If you read one of the thousand threads you start on the topic you'd know at least one person did exactly that. Hell, don't you remember the quotes you frothed at the mouth over saying along the lines of "that building's coming down"?
Fucking idiot.
Jazzz said:
You did not answer the point that I raised yesterday.
Let's assume for a minute that someone had rigged WTC7 with demolition charges, secretly.
That would be enough. Keep it simple. Blow it up, keep schtumm.
Given that by this point, half the world's media are focussed on this area of Manhattan, it would be news soon enough. And why do you care if its immediate news or not?
Why even think about doing "false" press releases, when there is a risk of releasing them at the wrong time?
Why bother with this whole complex "plot" involving allowing some TV companies "in on it"?
Why not, blow it up for whatever nefarious ends, and that's all?
Giles..
goldenecitrone
post tenebras lux
Jazzz said:
Why not? They'd just seen two other huge fucking towers collapsing around them. I wouldn't have felt save standing next to any of the surviving towers.
Bob_the_lost
Elsewhere
...Nemo in disguise, had to go somewhere after all and flight 93 had used up all the cover IDs the US government had spare that year.laptop said:So Will Self, therefore, is...
8den
No I'm pretty sure that was 8ball...
Jazzz said:
Have you actually done any research on this aside from conspiracaloon sites?
40. Captain Michael Currid, the president of the Uniformed Fire Officers Association, said that some time after the
collapse of the Twin Towers, “Someone from the city's Office of Emergency Management” told him that building 7
was “basically a lost cause and we should not lose anyone else trying to save it," after which the firefighters in the
building were told to get out (Murphy, Dean E., 2002. September 11: An Oral History. New York: Doubleday pp.
175-76)
41. While we were searching the subbasements (of building 6) they decided that Seven World Trade Center which was across the street was going to collapse, so they called us out. We were so far down we couldn’t hear them, but we came out after we searched the subbasements. Actually we came out on the Seven World Trade Center parkway street
when came out they were calling us on the radio to tell us to get out. I then reported that the search was negative and
then they wouldn’t let anybody near the site pretty much because Seven World Trade Center was going to come down.
–Battalion Chief Frank Congiusta
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...IC/9110425.PDF
42. We were ordered down from the tower ladder because of a possible collapse at Tower 7.
–Firefighter Pete Castellano http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...IC/9110398.PDF
43. The reason we were given for why we were moving was that 7 World Trade Center was going to collapse or was at risk of collapsing.
–Paramedic Joseph Cahill
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...IC/9110085.PDF
44. The rest of the day we were unloading trucks we were just doing whatever little things we could do, but they were
54 waiting for 7 World Trade Center to fall.
–Firefighter Timothy Burke
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...IC/9110488.PDF
45. "We were asked to go out of that area due to a risk of collapse in 7 WTC. "
–PAPD P.O. Thomas Johnson http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-...-reports02.pdf page 10.
46. ..And that was one of the directions from the command post, to make sure we clear the collapse zone from 7 and this is a 600-foot-tall building, so we had to clear a 600-foot radius from that building. –Battalion Chief John Norman
http://www.firehouse.com/terrorist/9...gz/norman.html
47. "The three of us along with 2 firemen searched that area until we were told to leave due to 7 possibly collapsing."
–PAPD P.O. Thomas Hering http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-...-reports02.pdf p.13.
48. All later attempts to return to the WTC were stopped by the pending, and eventual collapse of Building 7 and the uncontrolled fires. –PAPD P.O. Lawrence Guarneri http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-...-reports03.pdf
page 34
49. A while later, an NYFD supervisor approached and ordered the rescuers away from the area because 7 WTC was in danger of collapse also. –M. DeFilippis, PAPD P.O.
http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-...-reports03.pdf page 49
50. At about 1300 hrs between repeating officers fruitless efforts to locate fellow officers and the warning of building number Seven's possible collapse I started to walk uptown on West Street in hope of locating the PAPD Command Center.
–Christopher Bergmann, PAPD P.O. http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-...-reports03.pdf page 52
51. An FDNY supervisor deemed the area we were in unsafe, and assisted people out of the immediate area.
–M. McAdams, PAPD P.O. http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-...-reports03.pdf page 72
52. Reports of gas main leaks, bombs, small arms fire and buildings about to collapse forced us to again relocate further north on West Street
. –Daniel A. Carbonaro, PAPD Lieutenant http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-...-reports03.pdf page 76
[The next three quotes are similar...from written reports by officers in the same command]
53. Due to fire and instability of buildings at the WTC site we were directed to the MCC gym.
– PAPD P.O. Thomas Mancini, http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-...-reports03.pdf page 86
54. Due to fire and instability at the WTC site we were redirected to the MCC gym.
–PAPD P.O. Quirk http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-...-reports03.pdf page 88
55. Due to the fire and instability of the buildings at the WTC site we were directed to the MCC gym.
–PAPD P.O. Christensen http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-...-reports03.pdf page 89
56. Several attempts were made to assist the trapped, but we were kept out due to the uncontrolled fires and other
building collapsing around us. –PAPD P.O. Patrick Versage http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-...ereports03.pdf page 95
57. Returned to the site on 2-3 occasions...in an effort to help with evacuation but was stopped due to the imminent
collapse of 7 WTC. –PAPD LT. William Oorbeek http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-...-reports03.pdf page
97
58. Unfortunately we could not do much more because of fear that other buildings surrounding the Trade Center were
going to come down.
–PAPD P.O. John McClain http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-...-reports04.pdf page 33
59. For the remainder of the day , we made trips to the scene to assist in the search. Due to confusion and the threat
damaged buildings falling we were forced to retreat each time. We were on West & Vesey when # 7 collapsed. –
PAPD Sgt. Stone
http://www.thememoryhole.org/911/pa-...-reports04.pdf page 60
60. So we were doing searches, stretching lines, we were doing everything that we could possibly do. We were kind of overwhelmed at the task at hand. Like I said we operated for about three and half hours and then we went to takebreather, and as we moved out of the area we weren’t permitted back in the area by that time by a number of Chiefs
that were in charge.
–FDNY Lieutenant Brendan Whelan
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...IC/9110360.PDF
61. Once they got us back together and organized somewhat, they sent us back down to Vesey, where we stood and waited for Seven World Trade Center to come down.
–Firefighter Frank Sweeney
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...IC/9110113.PDF
62. But they weren’t really getting [sic] guys get too deep into it because of the possible pending collapse of SevenWorld Trade. ...We were staged there a good part of the afternoon until Seven finally did collapse.
–Firefighter David Moriarty http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...IC/9110228.PDF
63. …they told us to evacuate the area for tower number Seven, building Seven, when they knew that was coming down…
–Firefighter Dominick Muschello
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...IC/9110249.PDF
64. …Captain Verraile from 24 Engine said, “Hey, let’s just back everything off here because this building is coming down.”
–Firefighter Howie Scott http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...IC/9110365.PDF
65. Then they said that the 47 story hotel building—I think it’s number Seven—was about to come down. ...We were
around for the rest of the afternoon. At about 5:30 that did come down.
–Firefighter Edward Mecner
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...IC/9110391.PDF
66. They were saying building Seven was going to collapse, so we regrouped and went back to our rig. We waited for building Seven to come down.
–Firefighter James Wallace
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/package...IC/9110409.PDF
67. At 5:20, No. 7 finally falls. They've been waiting for it to go so they can move the firemen and search-and-rescue teams in. With the thunderous collapse, firemen bolt up from where they've been camped, on the south side of the Embassy Suites. Some have been sitting on plush hotel furniture carted into the street, eating food from the Mexican restaurant next door. There's a stampede over pickaxes and oxygen tanks. They head out toward the crushed fire trucks. "They're looking for their brothers," says an ambulance driver.
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/sept11...183/index.html
Waiting for 7 to Fall
bluestreak
HomosexualityIsStalin’sAtomBombtoDestroyAmerica
zoltan69 said:
no, but we still need to know how nemo knew even before the bbc.
ill-informed
passive aggressive master
At last, someone comes up with a good point rather than simply throwing highly offensive remarks at jazz. That had crossed my mind about the firefighters saying it was going to be pulled and to get away etc etc. So the wires got crossed, maybe that's plausable. I'm not at all convinced though. But then the idea that they got the script mixed up sounds implausable as well.
Jazzz said:As for the urban75 server, well it might creak under the traffic but there's no way it could move backwards in time.
You can be absolutely sure of it that every post I read here has a different time stamp then when you read them on your PC.
salaam.
ill-informed
passive aggressive master
I meant the 'conspirators' script.8den said:
zoltan69 said:
Yes, while all those who made the pre-emptive Hollywood movie for the Bush Clan were murdered when they had to dynamite the Towers to make the whole thing credible, the Jews -fro whom is known there was not one single soul in or nearby the WTC - were at a secret location editing left-overs of the shooting. Which then were used here and there in other US-released propaganda films.
Just wait until I finished the sequel.
salaam.
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