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Batley and Spen by-election

chilango said:
Sure. The usual sort of suspects piling on is no surprise.

...but having watched the both in the run up it's undeniable that they were opposed to Galloway. yet at the same time found his hyped impact more seductive or exciting than they should have.

Easy to slip into. Many of us have done similar.

Just, as you say, an impulse we must consciously fight.
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I think the 'excitement' is watching the irony-free contortions of people who spent five years trying to destroy Corbyn-Labour, including throwing two General Elections, now demanding North Korean standards of loyalty to Starmer, 'because the Tories...' In that sense I don't blame Jones or Bastani at all for getting excited at seeing these people humiliated in another bye-election defeat. There are many who feel the same way!
 
MickiQ said:
We'll never know how many of Galloway's fairly impressive vote share were Labour voters who deserted them for him thus reducing their margin or were Tory voters deserting them for him and thus denying them yet another victory.
Either way it's a shit result for Labour whichever way they try to paint it. In 2019 (which was Labours worst GE in decades) they held it by 3500 votes, 9000 votes in 2017 and 6000 votes in 2015.
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I believe 2017 was Labour's best ever vote share in Batley (better than 1997). And your reminder that Labour came second in Chesham and Amersham in 2017 (with 11,374 votes and a 20% vote share.)
 
I suspect the polling companies will be polling the voters in B&S over the next couple of days and I also suspect, the outcome from that is not going to look good for Starmzy.
 
The39thStep said:
Liked chavs and his book about the rich but he’s a political activist of the worst sort . Jumps ship at the turn of a hat and spends most of his time as a fixture talking to the various shades of the left .
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Jumps ship? I thought he was pretty solidly Labour left (make of that what you will).

I've been watching more of him since he started youtubing during the pandemic and his content has been pretty decent. His corona summation I thought was very good. Not sure I need to see more interviews with Ellie Maeo O Hagan though :D
 
steveseagull said:
I suspect the polling companies will be polling the voters in B&S over the next couple of days and I also suspect, the outcome from that is not going to look good for Starmzy.
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They didn’t before, why would they now? A party might, tho I doubt it, and any ‘results’ from them should be treated with massive caution
 
glitch hiker said:
Jumps ship? I thought he was pretty solidly Labour left (make of that what you will).

I've been watching more of him since he started youtubing during the pandemic and his content has been pretty decent. His corona summation I thought was very good. Not sure I need to see more interviews with Ellie Maeo O Hagan though :D
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Jumps ship in whatever passes for left in the Labour Party . He’s embrace of Corbyn soon evaporated
 
kebabking said:
We need a 'shit the fucking bed' emoji....

I can understand the personal relief of Starmer, and some very mixed and powerful emotions for Ledbeater, but the idea that this is any kind of victory for the party/movement/cause is just so crass as to be unbelievable.
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Especially as she wasn't even mentioning labour towards the end. She ran a lib dem , I will clean dogshit from your streets with my toothbrush campaign and he is claiming victory?
 
Serene said:
Boris has called Batley and Spen voters a bunch of ungrateful Northern Bastárds. He said he is redirectng HS2 through it, now, and cutting funding there. That place is dead, dead, dead, now, he said. Galloway agreed with Bojo.
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That would be funnier if it wasn't actually likely that Johnson really will punish them, as tories tend to do any area that doesn't elect them, and that real people will suffer as a result.
 
glitch hiker said:
If I'm honest, I don't really get the hatred for Owen Jones from the left. He's not a revolutionary, which sucks. But he's not the fiend some make him out to be. And he's not fucking racist cunt like Galloway the bigot bollock
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Just had a look, and this is Jones' response to that:


As I thought, the suggestion that Jones was on the verge of jumping ship to Gallowayism is clearly bollocks. Jones may well be a wanker in his way, but I bet he's less of a wanker than the person who has "moderate social democrat" as their username.
 
At least George Galloway didn't succeed in giving a seat to the Tories with his dog whistle misogyny.

Time for him to go back to pretending to be a cat on reality television.
 
Galloway needs another byelection, and soon. I doubt another will happen this year, Lagan Valley notwithstanding
 
teqniq said:
It's probably been mentioned upthread (I have only been reading it intermittently) but I was completely unimpressed with her coming out with this:

labourheartlands.com

Kim Leadbeater Using The Tory Lines: There Is No Magic Money Tree When Asked About Nurses Pay Rises - Labour Heartlands

Labour's candidate for Batley and Spen using 2017 Tory attack lines to explain why she won't back a proper pay rise for nurses and teachers. saying:
labourheartlands.com labourheartlands.com
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Bet she'll break some speed limits in her rush to get her snout in the trough
 
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