Avoiding meat and dairy is ‘single biggest way’ to reduce your impact on Earth

[platinumsage]

Heavy accusations. Could you give some examples of "extreme veganism" and "eco-fascism" in this thread please?

Otherwise it just looks like you're throwing around random unpleasant accusations and insults, which some posters seem happy to parrot without even understanding what you meant, so it would be good to clear it up.

I haven’t accused anyone of eco-fascism, or described any posters as eco-fascists. I have already explained several times why I coined the term vego-fascism.

Extreme veganism is prevalent on this thread and many others. I could give you some examples if you really want but it would take me a while.

 

[ddraig]

I haven’t accused anyone of eco-fascism, or described any posters as eco-fascists. I have already explained several times why I coined the term vego-fascism.

Extreme veganism is prevalent on this thread and many others. I could give you some examples if you really want but it would take me a while.

Go on then... still waiting

 

[platinumsage]

perhaps you could enlarge on malthus's eco-fascism, which is an aspect of his thought i haven't encountered. being as he died 90-odd years before mussolini took power

I didn’t say it was an aspect of his thought, I simply implied that some eco-fascism has Malthusian characteristics.

 

[ddraig]

Wonder what kind of veganism would be acceptable to you

 

[Spymaster]

Extreme veganism is prevalent on this thread and many others. I could give you some examples if you really want but it would take me a while.

I wouldn't bother. It's perfectly clear that you're right.

 

[Pickman's model]

I haven’t accused anyone of eco-fascism, or described any posters as eco-fascists. I have already explained several times why I coined the term vego-fascism.

Extreme veganism is prevalent on this thread and many others. I could give you some examples if you really want but it would take me a while.

but you didn't coin the term vego-fascism as a quick google shows

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[platinumsage]

Go on then... still waiting

I’d definitely start with you going on about sexual abuse in relation to dairy farming.

 

[WouldBe]

A simple biomass pyramid shows that calories come more efficiently from plants than animals, which takes considerably less land. That's why we need to look at more efficient sources of protein.

That can't always be grown where animals graze.

 

[platinumsage]

but you didn't coin the term vego-fascism as a quick google shows

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Great minds etc

 

[ddraig]

I’d definitely start with you going on about sexual abuse in relation to dairy farming.

go on then, quote it
If someone sticks their hand up your arse without you wanting them to, is that not abuse?

 

[Pickman's model]

I didn’t say it was an aspect of his thought, I simply implied that some eco-fascism has Malthusian characteristics.

you simply shat out some nonsense and thought it might beguile the unwary

 

[Pickman's model]

Great minds etc

i wouldn't describe either you or they as great minds.

 

[WouldBe]

Why?
It's not "hurtful" it's just fucking pathetic
Still not a single post of mine where i've told you what to eat, yet again

And fragile carnist isn't? Who's being fragile?

 

[ddraig]

Great minds etc

So some people wanting to put a warning sticker on something is fascism now?? you're a fucking joke
They're not even wanting to ban it ffs

 

[editor]

I haven’t accused anyone of eco-fascism, or described any posters as eco-fascists. I have already explained several times why I coined the term vego-fascism.

Extreme veganism is prevalent on this thread and many others. I could give you some examples if you really want but it would take me a while.

Seeing as you're freely bandying words like fascism around it would be good to see some examples of 'extreme veganism' that you claim is prevalent,

 

[ddraig]

And fragile carnist isn't? Who's being fragile?

You and quite a few others on this very thread

 

[platinumsage]

go on then, quote it
If someone sticks their hand up your arse without you wanting them to, is that not abuse?

Not if the “your” refers to a cow and the someone is a vet or farmer performing artificial insemination, no it’s not sexual abuse.

 

[Pickman's model]

Not if the “your” refers to a cow and the someone is a vet or farmer performing artificial insemination, no it’s not sexual abuse.

we don't have any cows posting here so the chances of the 'your' relating to a cow are i suggest remote.

 

[ddraig]

Not if the “your” refers to a cow and the someone is a vet or farmer performing artificial insemination, no it’s not sexual abuse.

So someone with a different viewpoint to you is "extreme" and a "fascist", great logic

 

[Saul Goodman]

go on then, quote it
If someone sticks their hand up your arse without you wanting them to, is that not abuse?

If a vet sticks a thermometer up my dog's arse, is it sexual abuse?

 

[Pickman's model]

Not if the “your” refers to a cow and the someone is a vet or farmer performing artificial insemination, no it’s not sexual abuse.

i think that making an animal pregnant to suit you and not the creature is some sort of abuse.

 

[editor]

Great minds etc

You're quoting a 12 year old article from a climate change denying, right wing think tank linked to fossil fuel interests, the tobacco industry and anti-renewable energy campaigns?

Good grief.

John Locke Foundation - SourceWatch

www.sourcewatch.org

 

[Pickman's model]

If a vet sticks a thermometer up my dog's arse, is it sexual abuse?

few thermometers will result in a litter of puppies.

 

[platinumsage]

So someone with a different viewpoint to you is "extreme" and a "fascist", great logic

I‘m contrasting with normal vegans, who simply don’t consume animal products and don’t come up with all the crap seen on this thread. So yes, extreme.

 

[ddraig]

If a vet sticks a thermometer up my dog's arse, is it sexual abuse?

Is it invasive and hurtful as a hand?
If it's needed for it's health and no other way then it's needed
Artificially inseminating cows is not needed
Get it yet?, you never will so stop looking for holes

 

[platinumsage]

You're quoting a 12 year old article from a climate change denying, right wing think tank linked to fossil fuel interests, the tobacco industry and anti-renewable energy campaigns?

Good grief.

John Locke Foundation - SourceWatch

www.sourcewatch.org

Pickman’s quoted it, I didn’t even read it.

 

[ddraig]

I‘m contrasting with normal vegans, who simply don’t consume animal products and don’t come up with all the crap seen on this thread. So yes, extreme.

What's a "normal" vegan, one who stays quiet?
Again, not a single quoted post, pathetic

 

[editor]

Pickman’s quoted it, I didn’t even read it.

"Great minds"

 

[CNT36]

few thermometers will result in a litter of puppies.

Back to the drawing board.

 

[WouldBe]

You and quite a few others on this very thread

I've never complained about being called a fragile carnist anywhere. The majority of the fragile whining comes from the vegetarians.