Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
I'd definitely eat it. It's what the cow would have wanted.
Avoiding meat and dairy is ‘single biggest way’ to reduce your impact on Earth
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ddraig
kicking against the pricks...
Look at the snidey sad state of Saul, quite sad tbh
Flavour
hang the bankers
where did you buy the steak, Bahnhof Strasse ?
WouldBe
Dislicksick
I remember as a 4/5 year old being dragged round the shops and market stalls on a Saturday morning to do the shopping. Butchers for mince or stewing steak wrapped in greaseproof paper, into Littlewoods for individual slices of boiled ham etc again wrapped in greaseproof paper. Market stalls for fruit and veg etc. No supermarket round here in those days so it can be done.
Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
I work. I don't have time for that shit.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Do you think it would rather be thrown in the bin?
WouldBe
Dislicksick
So did my parents yet they managed it.
Flavour
hang the bankers
You do really, but you choose to spend it otherwise.
Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
Gah. Jumpers for goalposts, eh?
Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
Have you ever been shopping with small children? Fuck yeah I choose to spend it otherwise. Don't you?
Flavour
hang the bankers
I try to avoid supermarkets and to support smaller shops where possible but totally appreciate how attractive the convenience of doing "the big shop" (as my Mum used to call it) under one roof is. It's part of the grinding alienation of consumer capitalism that we feel we can't live without it.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Butcher in the High Street, Saturday before last.
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Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
It must be lovely to skip to the shops, basket over one arm, taking your time for a nice long chat with all the shop staff. But some of us are feeding a family of four between school drop-off and work. It's not 'the big shop,' it's the reality of being female in 2021, sadly. Being patronised isn't helping, either.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
Spending a whole day shopping is so totally anti-capitalist. Gonna stick it to the man and pop down to the focaccia stall for a quarter of my lunch tomorrow!
Funky_monks
Neo-Rustic
I get it - I don't earn much, so Aldi it is. That said, Lidl and Aldi used to be really good for British produce, but I see more and more air freighted fruit and veg etc now.
We have a lovely butcher, but its "special treat" territory in there for me.
Flavour
hang the bankers
who said I spend a whole day shopping? glad i'm not as jaded as you sound here. it may not be anti-capitalist in the pure sense of the word which I am imagining you know so much about, but choosing where you spend your money is, to my mind, one of the only real freedoms we have, so choosing not to give that money to multinationals who homogenize the food landscape is not something to be ridiculed. pretty sad really.
obvious disclaimer: i live in Italy, where small family-run shops are still massively more abundant than in the UK, so I have it relatively easy on that score in terms of avoiding supermarkets. and there's not much of a price difference either if I'm honest.
and apologies to Poot for being patronizing - you are right. I don't have kids.
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
We live <5mins from the high street, butcher is more expensive than supermarket, but far better quality, greengrocer is much cheaper than supermarket and much better quality, so it works well for us. Except for the nonce-quotient*, obvs.
*the cunt used to give burgers and bangers to BB2's school fete for the BBQ free of charge, the school is right in the high street and there was no suggestion of him doing anything at primary level, but the head teacher was fucking apoplectic when his noncery was outed, can't say I blame her, not the best look.
*the cunt used to give burgers and bangers to BB2's school fete for the BBQ free of charge, the school is right in the high street and there was no suggestion of him doing anything at primary level, but the head teacher was fucking apoplectic when his noncery was outed, can't say I blame her, not the best look.
Cid
Proper break this time
You do also live in Surrey though.
I mean in terms of availability of grocers etc, not prevalence of nonces. Although...
Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
Cid
Proper break this time
Yeah that's really what I mean... Decent specialist food types (butchers, greengrocers etc) are something of a luxury these days. I could do my shop at them I suppose, but it'd involve cycling around town a fair bit.
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hiraethified
Or you'd adapt and change if you realised that tastes were changing and your current business was unsustainable in terms of the environment.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
You know wouldbe, your posts are pretty shit but at least, unlike Funky_Monks, they’re not really long and boring too.
platinumsage
HaveMyPassword123
All the family-run market stalls and butchers here get their stuff from wholesalers, which in turn get it from farms that are no different to the farms that supply supermarkets.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
Your argument is confused, though. The economic decision to switch to soya crops is made due to the total price you can get for them - ie both the oil for humans and the animal feed. Even if the oil for humans is only one third of that, that's easily enough to swing the decision. It doesn't make sense to think of either the oil or the feed as a by-product - neither of them is. And the decision is a forced one in some senses, because it is made in the context of a system that rewards destructive decision-making. There are better ways both to grow crops for humans and to farm livestock.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
You’re saying this like you’re giving me new information. I never said soy bean oil didn’t contribute to the profitability of soy crops - it obviously fucking does (that’s trivial and shouldn’t even need saying). But for the animal abuse supporters who post here to pretend that soy bean oil not animal feed is the main driver of the destruction of the Amazon (rather than being a byproduct of it) is dishonest bullshit.
littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
There you go again with the word byproduct.
I wouldn't post 'obvious' stuff if you didn't post stuff like that.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
More frothing nonsense. You just can't help yourself, can you.
Jeff Robinson
Marxist-Lentilist: Jackboots and Jackfruit
by-product noun
by-prod·uct | \ ˈbī-ˌprä-(ˌ)dəkt \
variants: or byproduct
plural by-products or byproducts
Definition of by-product
1 : something produced in a usually industrial or biological process in addition to the principal product
Sulfured molasses is a by-product of sugar refining.
The demand for soybeans is currently tied to global meat consumption and is expected to grow, fuelled by Asia.
… the soybean has become an important source of human and animal protein, with 85% of its cultivation destined for animal feed and the remaining destined for direct human consumption.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
No it doesn't. Farmers are stingy bastards, they won't buy a belt when a bit of bailer twine will hold their trousers up. You claim that soy cake earns more money than soy oil so who in their right mind would send soy for oil when they can make more money selling it for cattle feed. Makes as little sense as you do.
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