So if I had some grade one or two land, I'd use it for grazing animals on? Don't talk bollocks.
This seems to be the sticking point for a lot of people. They argue about things they know little or nothing about. They seem to think that all land is equal, and that the same land used to grow cattle and sheep can be used to grow crops for human consumption.
Yeah, I make this point over and over again - these generalised studies (which are now starting to be debunked anyway (see my links to the Stirling paper and the silviculture experiment), have used maths, but refined it to the point whereby geography is ignored.
Only if your farm has suitable cropping land, which many in the UK don't. Then the answer is livestock, but the key is how you manage them.
A neighbour of my father grows milling wheat. His land was excellent to start with but it took him years to make it suitable to grow wheat, and costs him a lot to keep it that way. His immediate neighbour grows sheep, because his land isn't even fit for cattle, as it's full of rocks at the top of the hill and a veritable bog at the bottom.
"Grows sheep"??
Just saying there is more scope for growing alternatives in non upland areas. No bollocks here
.Well there's horticulture, but by and large that's quite shit, environmentally (there are, of course exceptions) - the agronomist I work with who is pretty eco-conscious thinks growing potatoes should be banned wholesale.Just saying there is more scope for growing alternatives in non upland areas. No bollocks here
Farmers grow things, be they animals or plants. Although for a different perspective, I (and quite a few sheep farmers) considered that I farmed grass when I had them, the sheep grew themselves if I managed the grass right."Grows sheep"??
Clearly you just see animals as just another product, pretending to give a fuck about the welfare standards
They start small, they end up big. It's known as growing."Grows sheep"??
Clearly you just see animals as just another product, pretending to give a fuck about the welfare standards
They breed them and feed them, the sheep grow themselvesThey start small, they end up big. It's known as growing.
Wheat also grows itself by that measure. You plant it and feed it and it grows itself.They breed them and feed them, the sheep grow themselves
If you managed your grazing and/or vaccinations/worming regime badly, the sheep wouldn't grow themselves though, would they?They breed them and feed them, the sheep grow themselves
I did immediately think of thatIt's all going a bit
Is this the sum total of your efforts on this thread, putting laughing smileys on people's posts and arguing over the semantics of growing food?They breed them and feed them, the sheep grow themselves
It was a response to your smiley you stupid prick
No, you put a laughing smiley on two of my posts, without explaining why you were laughing, so I went back and put the same smiley on about 10 of your posts, to give you a clue how ridiculous it was, but let's address the lack of content in all of your posts. Apart from snide digs and smileys, what else have you contributed?
Grow the fuck up
I'm guessing you searched your posts on this thread and had a eureka moment
No shit.
That doesn't a lot of sense. From table 2 it claims an egg laying chicken has a water footprint of 33m^3 of water per year. That's 33,000 L per year or 90L per day = ~20 gallons per day not the 53 you quote.
This table agrees with the higher figure.That doesn't a lot of sense. From table 2 it claims an egg laying chicken has a water footprint of 33m^3 of water per year. That's 33,000 L per year or 90L per day = ~20 gallons per day not the 53 you quote.
From www.yourchickens.co.uk
"The average laying bird will drink up to 500ml of water a day" so you still need to account for 89.5L
"As a very rough guide, an average chicken will eat around 120-150 grams of food a day"
Do you really think it takes 89.5L of water to grow 150g of wheat?
That water is rain so shouldn't count. It's not as though we're taking it out of reservoirs to water the fields.
I don't think those figures would be too far off, tbh. You might also be shocked to hear that the average human uses about 3000 litres of fresh water a day.That doesn't a lot of sense. From table 2 it claims an egg laying chicken has a water footprint of 33m^3 of water per year. That's 33,000 L per year or 90L per day = ~20 gallons per day not the 53 you quote.
From www.yourchickens.co.uk
"The average laying bird will drink up to 500ml of water a day" so you still need to account for 89.5L
"As a very rough guide, an average chicken will eat around 120-150 grams of food a day"
Do you really think it takes 89.5L of water to grow 150g of wheat?
Wtf are people doing to use that amount?
Well this is all about context, isn't it? Is the farming sustainable? Is there enough water in dry periods? Water cycles around - that's what it does - and in some places fresh water is plentiful while in others it is a precious resource. Water supplies and rights are going to be an increasingly hot political topic around the world in the future - are already, look at Palestine/Israel, look at California.
Which is why you should grow crops according to the conditions. You don't grow stuff that needs lots of water in a desert just as don't grow stuff that needs dry conditions in boggy ground.
