Avoiding meat and dairy is ‘single biggest way’ to reduce your impact on Earth

[danny la rouge]

It’s here.

 

[editor]

No. Not in the piece I read. (Telegraph).

PR fluff it is then! I imagine the meat and dairy industry must be starting to get really worried about the rise in veggies/vegans. People are always going to eat meat of course, but one look at the changing displays in supermarkets tell you that people's diets are definitely changing.

 

[ddraig]

taking the pescatarians

 

[Saul Goodman]

PR fluff it is then! I imagine the meat and dairy industry must be starting to get really worried about the rise in veggies/vegans. People are always going to eat meat of course, but one look at the changing displays in supermarkets tell you that people's diets are definitely changing.

I don't think anyone will be losing any sleep. For most freshly converted vetarians and vegans, It's just a fad, and only matter of time before they go back to eating meat.

 

[editor]

I don't think anyone will be losing any sleep. For most freshly converted vetarians and vegans, It's just a fad, and only matter of time before they go back to eating meat.

And your evidence to back up your dismissive claim that it's all just a "fad" is what exactly?

Meanwhile, in the real world:

Veganism might have recently acquired a hipster cache at buzzy London events such as Vegan Nights and the weekly Hackney Downs market established by influential blogger Sean O’Callaghan, AKA “the Fat Gay Vegan”, but its surging popularity is a national phenomenon, with plant-based food festivals and businesses booming from Bristol to Inverness.

The high street is adapting with incredible speed. Big chains such as Marks & Spencer and Pret a Manger have introduced vegan ranges, Wagamama has a new vegan menu, Pizza Hut recently joined Pizza Express and Zizzi in offering vegan pizzas, while last year Guinness went vegan and stopped using fish bladders in its brewing process, after two and a half centuries. Scrolling through Twitter’s popular #veganhour (an hour of online recipes and ideas running 7-8pm every Tuesday, and trending at number seven nationally when I looked), alongside less surprising corporate interventions from Holland & Barrett and Heavenly Organics is a tweet from Toby Carvery, trumpeting its vegan cherry and chocolate torte. Sainsbury’s and Tesco have introduced extended new ranges of vegan products, while the latter recently appointed American chef Derek Sarno to the impressive job title of director of plant-based innovation.

If this is the year of mainstream veganism, as every trend forecaster and market analyst seems to agree, then there is not one single cause, but a perfect plant-based storm of factors. People cite one or more of three key motives for going vegan – animal welfare, environmental concerns and personal health – and it is being accompanied by an endless array of new business startups, cookbooks, YouTube channels, trendy events and polemical documentaries. The traditional food industry is desperately trying to catch up with the flourishing grassroots demand. “What do you mean, weak, limp and weedy? In 2017, the vegan category is robust, energetic, and flush with crowdfunding cash,” ran an article headlined “Vegan Nation” in industry bible the Grocer in November, pointing to new plant-based burger company Vurger, which hit its £150,000 investment target in little more than 24 hours.

The unstoppable rise of veganism: how a fringe movement went mainstream

• There’s been a 600% increase in people identifying as vegans in the U.S in the last three years. According to a report by research firm GlobalData, only 1% of U.S. consumers claimed to be vegan in 2014. And in 2017, that number rose to 6%.

• In the UK, the number of people identifying as vegans has increased by 350%, compared to a decade ago, according to research commissioned by the Vegan Society in partnership with Vegan Life magazine.

• Veganism was a top search trend in Canada in 2017. And the preliminary draft of Canada’s new Food Guide, released in 2017 by the Canadian government, favors plant-based foods.

• In Portugal, vegetarianism rose by 400% in the last decade. This is according to research carried out by Nielsen.

Vegan Statistics: Why The Global Rise in Plant-Based Eating Isn’t A Fad

And:

While plant-based milk sales grew 3.1%, cow’s milk sales declined 5% and are projected to drop another 11% through 2020, according to Mintel. Market Watch reports that Dean Foods, the largest supplier of dairy milk in the US, recently posted a third-quarter net income of just $1.4 million, down from $14.5 million in the same period a year ago. This downward trend is not confined only to the US: Australia’s largest supplier of dairy products, Murray Goulburn, announced a 22% drop in milk sales in the past financial year. Meanwhile Elmhurst, one of the longest-running dairies on the US east coast, decided in 2017, after 92 years, to cut its losses and switch to producing solely plant-based milks.

Here's Why You Should Turn Your Business Vegan In 2018

 

[editor]

This is quite something

Elmhurst Dairy was founded by Schwartz’s father and uncle in 1925 in New York, and became one of the largest dairies on the east coast, supplying a metropolitan area of seven million people.

But dairy sales in the US are on the decline. They went down by 7 percent ($17.8 billion) in 2015 and are projected to drop another 11 percent through 2020, according to research firm Mintel.

Meanwhile the plant-based milk sector continues to grow. Mintel’s figures show gains of 9 percent in 2015 to reach $1.9 billion in the US, while Innova Market Insights found the global dairy alternatives market is set to top $16 billion in 2018, up from $7.4 billion in 2010.

So, in November last year, 83-year-old Schwartz made a radical decision: to stop using cows to make milk products, and replace them with nuts.

Why This New York Dairy Ditched Cows After 92 Years And Started Making Nut Milks

 

[Saul Goodman]

And your evidence to back up your dismissive claim that it's all just a "fad" is what exactly?

The FACT that 84% of vegetarians and vegans give up on the idea and go back to eating meat, suggests that most of them just get bored of preaching.

 

[Gromit]

The FACT that 84% of vegetarians and vegans give up on the idea and go back to eating meat, suggests that most of them just get bored of preaching.

Chart on that link showed that 85% of the population had never been vegitarian.
Proving that vegitarianism is undemocratic.

 

[ddraig]

The FACT that 84% of vegetarians and vegans give up on the idea and go back to eating meat, suggests that most of them just get bored of preaching.

lolz
"faunalytics"
you're obsessed

 

[SpookyFrank]

The FACT that 84% of vegetarians and vegans give up on the idea and go back to eating meat, suggests that most of them just get bored of preaching.

What you've presented there is a single piece of evidence, which is not how facts are determined.

Also it's traditional to give up the practice of using capital letters for emphasis after completing primarty school.

 

[Saul Goodman]

What you've presented there is a single piece of evidence, which is not how facts are determined.

Feel free to do your own research, you insufferable bore.

 

[Saul Goodman]

lolz
"faunalytics"
you're obsessed

I do love your go-to answers when you don't actually have an answer, which is pretty much always

 

[Saul Goodman]

lolz
"faunalytics"
you're obsessed

I'm obsessed?

Here, have a look at these cunts.

vegan march - Google Search

That's obsession. You don't see meat eaters orgnising marches to stroke their own egos, but these vegans just can't help themselves, they're annoying cunts. They're the same as anti-abortionists, and should be treated with the same contempt.

 

[editor]

The FACT that 84% of vegetarians and vegans give up on the idea and go back to eating meat, suggests that most of them just get bored of preaching.

And what a sloppy piece of research that was
Why the HRC study of former vegetarians is wrong
Animal Advocacy and The Scientific Method: The Humane Research Council Study - Vegan Publishers

 

[Saul Goodman]

And what a sloppy piece of research that was
Why the HRC study of former vegetarians is wrong

Yes, let's take a page of vegan hyperbole as proof that something isn't true, despite that page coontaining... nothing

 

[editor]

Yes, let's take a page of vegan hyperbole as proof that something isn't true, despite that page coontaining... nothing

So you're holding up that one non peer reviewed study as an example of a perfect study?

 

[Saul Goodman]

So you're holding up that one non peer reviewed study as an example of a perfect study?

So you're holding up that one page of vegan nonsense is anything but nonsense, and somehow proves the study wrong?

 

[editor]

So you're holding up that one page of vegan nonsense is anything but nonsense, and somehow proves the study wrong?

Can you answer the question please? You posted up the study of proof of something or another so I'd like to know why you are so defensive about it and so quick to dismiss what appears to be valid criticism.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Can you answer the question please? You posted up the study of proof of something or another so I'd like to know why you are so defensive about it and so quick to dismiss what appears to be valid criticism.

Yes, it isn't.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Can you answer the question please? You posted up the study of proof of something or another so I'd like to know why you are so defensive about it and so quick to dismiss what appears to be valid criticism.

I'm quick to dismiss anything posted on a domain called "directactioneverywhere", because they're obviously vegangalists.

 

[editor]

Yes, it isn't.

Oh well. There are none so blind as those who can not see.

The fact remains is that veganism and vegetarianism are enjoying huge upsurges in popularity and try as you might, it's anything but a fad. What do you think of the 90+ year old dairy business that recently switched to plant based milks? Does that tell you anything?

 

[SpookyFrank]

I'm quick to dismiss anything posted on a domain called "directactioneverywhere", because they're obviously vegangalists.

You seem to prefer mail.co.uk as a source of opinions, evidence and critical thinking skills.

 

[Saul Goodman]

What do you think of the 90+ year old dairy business that recently switched to plant based milks? Does that tell you anything?

It tells me that they got their calculators out and relised they could make more money selling ridiculously priced coloured water to gullible people.

 

[Saul Goodman]

You seem to prefer mail.co.uk as a source of opinions, evidence and critical thinking skills.

Don't ba a plank, Frank.

 

[SpookyFrank]

It tells me that they got their calculators out and relised they could make more money selling ridiculously priced coloured water to gullible people.

Gullible in what sense? Nobody is passing off plant milk as anything other than what it is, they put the ingredients on the package. If people didn't like these products they wouldn't buy them.

 

[petee]

i eat very little meat, but i fail to see how veganism, in itself, gives workers control over their own lives.

 

[SpookyFrank]

Don't ba a plank, Frank.

Don't be a bile-spitting fuckwit Saul.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Don't be a bile-spitting fuckwit Saul.

I see at least you're level-headed. Dribbling shite froom both sides of your mouth.

 

[Saul Goodman]

Gullible in what sense? Nobody is passing off plant milk as anything other than what it is, they put the ingredients on the package. If people didn't like these products they wouldn't buy them.

I laughed aspecially hard when I saw editor had liked this post, considering his views on Apple sheeple who buy overpriced shite. The irony burns!

 

[SpookyFrank]

I see at least you're level-headed. Dribbling shite froom both sides of your mouth.

Right, back to ignore with you. Best of luck single-handedly reversing broad social trends armed only with second-hand wisecracks and reactionary drivel.