Attacking trade unions and trade unionism
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danny la rouge
More like *fanny* la rouge!
She has actually robustly opposed it, more than Burnham even, who threw in, "we don't oppose employers for its own sake, so ----
sourced from Guardian.
Libertad
Sparking up a rollie in the Reichstag
And an injury to one is an injury to all.
ska invita
back on the other side
Supposedly the fox vote wont pass as the SNP are gong to vote against it. Id expect even Labour lackeys wouldnt vote for this. Could it really pass?
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Yeah, but how many union members actively choose to fund Labour via their subs?
I had to actively opt out of giving them money rather than opt in.
Just because the Tories are wrong doesn't mean the way union barons hand over millions to a party that actively works against the day to day interests of their members (at work and in their communities) is right
quimcunx
imprimeo, lamino, distribuo
How does that work just now?
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
it doesn't
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Provided that it's clear on TU websites and in their application forms for membership that there's a political fund which members can opt out of, I don't see the issue with opting out.
PCS, my union, is not Labour-affiliated, but I'd opt into a general PCS political fund under any new rules.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
I didn't say it was an I'd opt out myself as I don't think much of Labour. That wasn't my point- my point was which model of funding is more democratic
belboid
Exasperated, not angry.
TUC are highlighting an interesting point I hadn't noticed before - unions will have to give 14 days notice of any intent to use facebook during industrial action! Given how widely the courts have interpreted anti-union legislation in the past, that could probably be applied to any union member making any comment about a strike at all
https://www.tuc.org.uk/node/123218
https://www.tuc.org.uk/node/123218
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
Also scope here to go after unions on the use of social media if social media posts in favour of a strike on the day could count as exceeding the six person limit of a picket...
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Here's the consultation (launched yesterday) on "tackling intimidation of non-striking workers": https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/tackling-intimidation-of-non-striking-workers
The consultation document sets out the detail of what the govt propose doing and asks for feedback. It's worth reading
Time for the TUs to reinvent themselves, perhaps.
The consultation document sets out the detail of what the govt propose doing and asks for feedback. It's worth reading
Time for the TUs to reinvent themselves, perhaps.
DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
some bullshit, I've never worked in a place that was unionised let alone had anyone try to browbeat me into striking (not that they would need to). Where are all these evil union bullies giving scabs a chinese burn? nowhere. Evil looks and not invited down the pub after work is the harshest punishment the donut buying scab can expect
J Ed
Follow Back Pro Expropriation
The opposite is much more likely, in many workplaces not having a scab mentality makes you the outsider
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Here's the consultation for "ballot thresholds in important public services": https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/ballot-thresholds-in-important-public-services
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
And here's the consultation for "hiring agency staff during strike action":https://www.gov.uk/government/consu...aff-during-strike-action-reforming-regulation
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Yes. The more the better. They will interpret lack of response as apathy/green light/legitimacy.
cesare
shady's dreams ♥
Maybe we should do the U75 response
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Maybe we should do the U75 response
eatmorecheese
He's fallen out of the car again
In September I become an assistant branch secretary full time for a year. The branch secretary will be carving out a 'career' at a regional level. No other fucker would touch it, I stood unopposed. We have about 4,000 members.
I may well be asking for advice here in the months ahead. I'm lost, frankly. And angry. Last Friday my local authority announced a 'restructure' with 104 predicted posts deleted. I'm unsure whether this is a barren seam in terms of solid, tangible opposition. This 'corporate' unionism makes my skin crawl. I'm aware this is a thankless task and my views are probably not 100% acceptable in this outfit currently, but I'm determined to make a lot of noise.
That's bleak. Thanks for the links
I may well be asking for advice here in the months ahead. I'm lost, frankly. And angry. Last Friday my local authority announced a 'restructure' with 104 predicted posts deleted. I'm unsure whether this is a barren seam in terms of solid, tangible opposition. This 'corporate' unionism makes my skin crawl. I'm aware this is a thankless task and my views are probably not 100% acceptable in this outfit currently, but I'm determined to make a lot of noise.
Here's the consultation (launched yesterday) on "tackling intimidation of non-striking workers": https://www.gov.uk/government/consultations/tackling-intimidation-of-non-striking-workers
The consultation document sets out the detail of what the govt propose doing and asks for feedback. It's worth reading
Time for the TUs to reinvent themselves, perhaps.
That's bleak. Thanks for the links
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
when was your facility time negotiated?In September I become an assistant branch secretary full time for a year. The branch secretary will be carving out a 'career' at a regional level. No other fucker would touch it, I stood unopposed. We have about 4,000 members.
I may well be asking for advice here in the months ahead. I'm lost, frankly. And angry. Last Friday my local authority announced a 'restructure' with 104 predicted posts deleted. I'm unsure whether this is a barren seam in terms of solid, tangible opposition. This 'corporate' unionism makes my skin crawl. I'm aware this is a thankless task and my views are probably not 100% acceptable in this outfit currently, but I'm determined to make a lot of noise.
That's bleak. Thanks for the links
eatmorecheese
He's fallen out of the car again
It's being renegotiated at the moment. I'll know soon, but full-time is what predecessor had. Unsure when it was last negotiated.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
perhaps be useful to talk to your counterparts at neighbouring local authorities to get a feeling for what other people have got - if you can show other people have the same should help you keep your f.t. - and it may be some places have more (i think barking and dagenham pretty good).
eatmorecheese
He's fallen out of the car again
I've had no part in the negotiations tbh. I've been busy with my substantive post and repping the rest of the time, but I'll have a scout for info, cheers.
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