Atos Medicals - Questions, Answers and Support

[purenarcotic]

The contribution / income bit is slightly complicated by the fact that she's Dutch and there was some strange thing with unemployment that I don't quite understand.

She has worked on and off and she has a tax code etc, so I'm assuming it would be contribution based for x amount of time? TBH my dad is much better at working out that sort of thing so I might leave all that to him.

 

[equationgirl]

The contribution / income bit is slightly complicated by the fact that she's Dutch and there was some strange thing with unemployment that I don't quite understand.

She has worked on and off and she has a tax code etc, so I'm assuming it would be contribution based for x amount of time? TBH my dad is much better at working out that sort of thing so I might leave all that to him.

It may be that the DWP claim her unemployment payments from the Dutch government, certainly the Dutch government pays people a percentage of their last salary as their unemployment payment rather than a fixed rate. But I'm not expert so I'd just leave it to your dad.

Give as much information as possible. Also if she's on any medications check the side effects of each one and where one appears across two or more medications highlight it. This is because many medications can act synergisticly to make a side effect worse so, for example, if tiredness or fatigue appears as a side effect highlight it.

 

[Awesome Wells]

This is somewhat off topic, but i judge it to be relevant.

I'm due to the end the Work Programme in amonth's time though I'm now officially on ESA in the WRAG. Does anyone know what to expect? Do i qualify for the 'high intensity' support that was pronounced all gulag survivors would be subject to, or is that for JSA claimants only?

Frankly the WP has been every bit the total waste of time the reports claim, though I'm sure the blame for that will be borne by me and all other claimants.

 

[geminisnake]

Where is the other thread? I have been for my 1st wrag interview and I need some advice. Nothing serious, just was told to check universal jobmatch, but was also told I didn't need to register for anything, which means afaic see I can't access the jobmatch thing

 

[Frances Lengel]

Where is the other thread? I have been for my 1st wrag interview and I need some advice. Nothing serious, just was told to check universal jobmatch, but was also told I didn't need to register for anything, which means afaic see I can't access the jobmatch thing

You can look at universal jobmatch without registering via the link below


https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/Job...=rv.dt.di&vw=b&re=134&setype=2&tjt=&where=&q=

Were you mandated to look at it?

 

[geminisnake]

You can look at universal jobmatch without registering via the link below
https://jobsearch.direct.gov.uk/Job...=rv.dt.di&vw=b&re=134&setype=2&tjt=&where=&q=
Were you mandated to look at it?

I was told to check 3 websites once a week 'to keep up to date with the local job market' apparently. I did manage not to say there is one?? When she showed me the leaflet for the universal thing I asked if that was the thing getting slated in all the papers though. Thanks for the link.

I have to go back in 4/5 months she said. I'll get a letter.

 

[Awesome Wells]

I was told to check 3 websites once a week 'to keep up to date with the local job market' apparently. I did manage not to say there is one?? When she showed me the leaflet for the universal thing I asked if that was the thing getting slated in all the papers though. Thanks for the link.

I have to go back in 4/5 months she said. I'll get a letter.

Did you have to sign a Claimant Committment to this end; an agreement of some kind?

 

[geminisnake]

No, didn't sign anything Awesome. I wouldn't have done anyway.

 

[pengaleng]

Think I've almost decided to close down this shit because I can't take any more, they are making me ill and prostitution is a much more attractive option, I just have to get around doing it from me mams house.

Anyone know how long it takes to close a claim or whether they can still hold you to interviews etc? I just wanna shut shit down and not have to deal with them any more.

This is a serious consideration.

Honestly couldn't give a fuck any more, would rather risk catching HIV.

 

[yardbird]

tribal_princess. So sorry about your fucking nightmare.
You know that if you had the energy to fight them then you would win.
You don't and need serious support to deal with them.
I remember your appeal in the past, which you won.
Having to go through things again shows how crap the "system" is.

I had a real problem getting them to understand that I've got a condition that ain't going to get better, just the same or worse,
Cunts!

 

[pengaleng]

Its a massive problem with my disability being invisible, I go in there and I LOOK fine, I SOUND fine, I do not however FEEL fine, they cannot SEE that I cant really feel my hands properly, or SEE my tiredness, or SEE my nausea, or SEE my heat sensitivity.

Like I said on my other shits, if I could get buses 5 days a week and spend my days doing shit then I would fucking be working. I spend most of summer in my fucking room with the blinds closed and the air con on and physical exertion is out of the question, I physically cant leave the house before the sun starts setting, I cant even go and sit in the fucking garden let alone get a fucking bus at the fucking beginning of fucking summer.

WHAT A BUNCH OF CUNTS.

I am fucking DONE with them. Fuck YEWANDE and fuck the MANAGER CUNT she is blatantly sucking off.

YEWANDE is gonna end up in the fucking dole queue herself when I have fucking finished.

 

[yardbird]

"I spend most of summer in my fucking room with the blinds closed and the air con on and physical exertion is out of the question, I physically cant leave the house before the sun starts setting, I cant even go and sit in the fucking garden let alone get a fucking bus at the fucking beginning of fucking summer".
tribal_princess All too familiar. When I went to a gig in London last year it was organised with military precision by my friends. Maggot found the best places to change Tube for distance and steps. There was no way I could have done it without my support team.
I was totally fucked for days later.
A job would be impossible.

 

[pengaleng]

NO ONE understands this shit.I can't even go to gigs cus everything is standing and upon emailing venues they couldn't say whether they had seating for cripples and to contact them on the night, like wtf is that? I couldn't be fucked to argue, so didn't go.

 

[pengaleng]

There was some bastard manager saying I had to have a plan and couldn't stay on benefit and asked if I'd thought about starting a business (LOL DOING WHAT???) and totting up how many years it'd be til I was at pension age, 2051 I think he calculated it to be, well FUCK THAT I wont be here then and I can guarantee that because I will be going to fucking dignitas, the massive fucking cunt I hope he fucking dies, I hope his kids fucking die. I HOPE YOUR FUCKING KIDS DIE OF FUCKING LEUKAEMIA 'M8'. < btw can I get into shit for saying that to em? cus I'm fucking gonna.

 

[Greebo]

NO ONE understands this shit.I can't even go to gigs cus everything is standing and upon emailing venues they couldn't say whether they had seating for cripples and to contact them on the night, like wtf is that? I couldn't be fucked to argue, so didn't go.

Annoying as this is for you - you're wrong. You're not the only crip on urban and I could've told you that shit about gigs etc long ago but hey what the fuck do I know?

Oh yeah, that's right, my partner has only has had moderate to severe M.E. for the last 20 or so years. Another invisible disability and illness. No cure, no treatment except palliatives, and the NHS hasn't got a fucking clue.

You haven't got the energy to argue - bloody find somebody who has. In fact, find several people.

 

[pengaleng]

Annoying as this is for you - you're wrong. You're not the only crip on urban and I could've told you that shit about gigs etc long ago but hey what the fuck do I know? Oh yeah, that's right, my partner has only has had moderate to severe M.E. for the last 20 or so years.

You haven't got the energy to argue - bloody find somebody who has. In fact, find several people.

FUCK OFF CUNT. FUCK YOU. CUNT,. YOU DONYT HAVE MS. YOU DONT UNDERFUCKINGSTAND SHIT ALL. FUCK OFF.

I HOPE YOU AND YPOUR FUCKING 'PARTNER' DIE. HOW FUCKING DARE YOU APPLY MY SHIT TO YOURSELF. HOEW FUCKING DARE YOU. THIS ISN'T A FUCKING IM MORE DISABLED THAN YE COMPETITION. THE ONLY EXPERIENCE OF ANYTHING YOU HAVE IS SECOND HAND AND BEING A CARER. FUCK THE FUCK OFF. CUNT.

 

[Greebo]

FUCK OFF CUNT. FUCK YOU. CUNT,. YOU DONYT HAVE MS. YOU DONT UNDERFUCKINGSTAND SHIT ALL. FUCK OFF.

I HOPE YOU AND YPOUR FUCKING 'PARTNER' DIE. HOW FUCKING DARE YOU APPLY MY SHIT TO YOURSELF. HOEW FUCKING DARE YOU. THIS ISN'T A FUCKING IM MORE DISABLED THAN YE COMPETITION. THE ONLY EXPERIENCE OF ANYTHING YOU HAVE IS SECOND HAND AND BEING A CARER. FUCK THE FUCK OFF. CUNT.

And you wonder why you're alone in this. Nobody uses me as a punchbag. Bye teeps.

 

[pengaleng]

Annoying as this is for you - you're wrong. You're not the only crip on urban and I could've told you that shit about gigs etc long ago but hey what the fuck do I know?

Oh yeah, that's right, my partner has only has had moderate to severe M.E. for the last 20 or so years. Another invisible disability and illness. No cure, no treatment except palliatives, and the NHS hasn't got a fucking clue.

You haven't got the energy to argue - bloody find somebody who has. In fact, find several people.

FUCK OFF. FUCK OFF. FUCK OFFG. YOU AINT TRYING TO HELP YOU ARE MOANING AT ME

 

[pengaleng]

And you wonder why you're alone in this. Nobody uses me as a punchbag. Bye teeps.

FUCK OFF APPLYIONG MY FUCKING DISABILITY TO YOUR OWN CUNTING SITUATION THEN LIKE SOME FUCKING JKIND OF MARTYR

OOOOOH 'NOBODY USES ME AS A PUNCH BAG' ISIT REALLY??

IF YOU DONT LIKE BEING TOLD TO FUCK RIGHT OFF DO NOT FUCKING TALK DOWN TO ME LIKE I AM A FUCKING IDIOT.

FUCKING BULLSHIT WITCH. IF YOU CANT SEE HOW PURELY FUCKING OFFENSIVE YOU BEEN THEN I FEEL DEEPLY SORRY FOR YOU.

I AINT EVEN SAID I'M ALONE, DICKHEAD.

 

[editor]

FUCK OFF APPLYIONG MY FUCKING DISABILITY TO YOUR OWN CUNTING SITUATION THEN LIKE SOME FUCKING JKIND OF MARTYR

OOOOOH 'NOBODY USES ME AS A PUNCH BAG' ISIT REALLY??

IF YOU DONT LIKE BEING TOLD TO FUCK RIGHT OFF DO NOT FUCKING TALK DOWN TO ME LIKE I AM A FUCKING IDIOT.

FUCKING BULLSHIT WITCH. IF YOU CANT SEE HOW PURELY FUCKING OFFENSIVE YOU BEEN THEN I FEEL DEEPLY SORRY FOR YOU.

Sorry, but this kind of abuse is against the rules of this board, so please stop.

 

[pengaleng]

Sorry, but this kind of abuse is against the rules of this board, so please stop.

OH IVE BEEN REPORTED HAVE I?? TELL THAT IDIOT TO STOP COMPARING DISABILITY AND MAKING OUT LIKE THEY KNOW SHIT.

CARRY ON WITH YER SNIDE COMMENTS, GREEBO

AND ALL YOU CUNTS SHOULD GOOGLE EMOTIONAL LIABILITY IF YOU THINKS I AM GETTING THIS FUCKING ANGRY ON FUCKING PURPOSE.

 

[Greebo]

FWIW I reported nobody. I'd like this to stop, I'd also like tribal_princess to find the help and support which she desperately needs.

If she only wants to hear from other people with her stage and type of MS, the obvious step is an MS board.

 

[pengaleng]

how do you know I aint? stfu. I aint your concern. Kewep my name off your fingertips.

you want it to stop? stop saying pigshit thick things.

 

[Jackobi]

Like I said on my other shits, if I could get buses 5 days a week and spend my days doing shit then I would fucking be working.

Is this a work programme provider trying to get you to do a course? If it is not a mandatory course, you cannot be mandated to attend under threat of sanction. The WP may try to manipulate you in to believing it is mandatory when it is not, so you need to find out the specifics and tell them to fuck off if it is officially 'voluntary'.

CDL had similar shit pulled on her recently by a WP implying that a course was mandatory when it wasn't.

 

[Awesome Wells]

Is this a work programme provider trying to get you to do a course? If it is not a mandatory course, you cannot be mandated to attend under threat of sanction. The WP may try to manipulate you in to believing it is mandatory when it is not, so you need to find out the specifics and tell them to fuck off if it is officially 'voluntary'.

CDL had similar shit pulled on her recently by a WP implying that a course was mandatory when it wasn't.

How do you know though? Aren't some courses mandatory? Isn't this all going to change next month, or whenever IDS next moves his bowels (it's all the same)?

 

[pengaleng]

Whatr an absolute FOOL I was to think I'd be able to come onto a forum I have posted on for nearly 13 fucking years and have a bit of a moan without being whined at about how I aint the only one. I couldn't give a fuck any more. I have a shit load of codeine phosphate and you just made my fucking mind up about what to do with it. bottoms up. I'm out of here.

 

[yardbird]

TEEPS!!

 

[yardbird]

I shall continue to support tribal_princess here.
This MS thing totally does you in.
I have found that many many people don't understand it.
Here or irl.

 

[yardbird]

What I didn't get about ATOS was -
"Medical professional" V My GP. My neurologist. My physio. My outreach nurse. My counsellor (not now). My occupational therapist. General opinion.
Nuts, almost a quaint old lady making life or death decisions.

 

[Jackobi]

How do you know though? Aren't some courses mandatory?

I don't know of any mandatory courses, only mandatory work activity. In order to be mandated, a jobseeker's direction or mandatory activity notification must be issued, and if either is issued for a non-mandatory activity such as sector based work activity, it is illegal, as happened in the case with Cat Reilly, who was illegally mandated on to an SBWA.