Argentina to fly the flag of Las Malvinas at London Olympics

[trampie]

We colonised the Falklands before the Spanish.

How can they be Argentinian territory if Argentina did not exist when we colonised them?

The Welsh discovered America first, parts of the continent were unoccupied, should parts of North America belong to Wales, Elizabeth the first tried to claim America for Britain citing that Prince Madoc had discovered it and his people had stayed there. [Hey love its Welsh not British ]

 

[DotCommunist]

I think the native americans discovered it first

 

[trampie]

"Brits have been cunts in the past" shocker!

What does this have to do with the Falklands?

Who should South Africa belong to ?

 

[coley]

Who should South Africa belong to ?

The South Africans?

 

[trampie]

The South Africans?

Shared, therefore should the Falklands be shared between Britain and Argentina ?

 

[Pickman's model]

The force that attacked Wales came from every region of England as well as from Normandy, Aquitaine, Flanders and Poitou even the Danish navy was hired, the city of London doing most to foot the bill if that is not superpower stuff for the time i dont know what is, it was another Waterloo moment for England though not as bad as when the Welsh army was stuck on Angelsy and the English carpenters built a wooden bridge across, the Welsh let a hundred or so knights on horseback across and then set the bridge on fire, some historians think it was the English armies worst ever defeat, hundred of knights at the bottom of the sea.

The term concentration camp was first used to describe camps used by the British in the Boer war, the Brits used a scorched earth policy of destroying Boer farms and putting civilians into concentration camps.

you've not heard of the byzantine empire then.

and even if you're right that the term concentration camp was first used during the south african war, the concentration camps in cuba were very real. if you're going to say that because a certain term wasn't used before a certain date something didn't exist then there was no homosexuality until the late ninteenth century. fucking nonsense.

oh - and you might notice that waterloo led to great changes in france and the remainder of europe. what did this 'waterloo moment' lead to?

 

[Pickman's model]

I think the falklands war was as clean a war as any has been fought since the 2nd world war.Few civilian deaths and very few if any war crimes.

this bears no relationship to the post you quote

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Let them wear what they like. Every time this gets brought up they get patted on the head a bit and everyone forgets all about it for another five years. They can whinge and whine til the penguins come home but it won't make their preposterous claims any more valid.

So who cares?

they aren't preposterous claims tbf... we settle like an imperials cunt we were on land directly next to and in any reasonable understanding of international waters an land rights on a bit of Argentina and claimed it as ours we then use the old well the people there (which we put there) want to be british (because we took them from Britain and put them there of course they do...) so it's unreasonable for you to ask us to leave....

those who get up in arms about the islands must never be returned and get uppity about Argentinians preposterous claims are precisely the same people that if eastern European squatters moved into a house on their street they'd be up in arms that these reprobates weren't moved on and what is the world coming too when foreigners can come over here and steal a house and claim it as their own...

exactly the same people... every time...

land stolen by imperialistic actions should be returned. simples.

if the displaced populations who now lived there wish to remain they will also need to become citizens of the new host country... if they whine and moan they can fucking move to that country...

as it should be here, Palestine, Ireland, Kashmir etc etc etc etc...

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

Personally I couldn't give a damn what the Argentine or British governments want to do with The Falklands. It's kind of up to the people who live there don't you think?

no an occupying force placed their by the invaders are not the best people to decided if they should have leave to remain...

 

[Pickman's model]

land stolen by imperialistic actions should be returned. simples.

who would you return siberia to?

for that matter who would you return argentina to?

 

[Pickman's model]

no an occupying force placed their by the invaders are not the best people to decided if they should have leave to remain...

you've not heard of the falkland islands company then

 

[dylanredefined]

this bears no relationship to the post you quote

so what where you meaning then?

 

[Pickman's model]

so what where you meaning then?

i was meaning that it would be good if british forces were held to some sort of standard.

 

[dylanredefined]

i was meaning that it would be good if british forces were held to some sort of standard.

They are.

 

[coley]

Shared, therefore should the Falklands be shared between Britain and Argentina ?

Shared? in what way?

 

[Pickman's model]

They are.

yes, when they are convicted of murder - like lee clegg or ian thain - they're in and out of prison in a flash, and in clegg's case allowed to rejoin the army and promoted.

 

[coley]

i was meaning that it would be good if british forces were held to some sort of standard.

They are, hence 240+ million wasted on the recent BS enquiry

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

who would you return siberia to?

for that matter who would you return argentina to?

never had you down as a fascist... still you live and learn... one more boot boy bone head to add to the lists....

 

[agricola]

they aren't preposterous claims tbf... we settle like an imperials cunt we were on land directly next to and in any reasonable understanding of international waters an land rights on a bit of Argentina and claimed it as ours we then use the old well the people there (which we put there) want to be british (because we took them from Britain and put them there of course they do...) so it's unreasonable for you to ask us to leave....

those who get up in arms about the islands must never be returned and get uppity about Argentinians preposterous claims are precisely the same people that if eastern European squatters moved into a house on their street they'd be up in arms that these reprobates weren't moved on and what is the world coming too when foreigners can come over here and steal a house and claim it as their own...

exactly the same people... every time...

land stolen by imperialistic actions should be returned. simples.

if the displaced populations who now lived there wish to remain they will also need to become citizens of the new host country... if they whine and moan they can fucking move to that country...

as it should be here, Palestine, Ireland, Kashmir etc etc etc etc...

If you believe in the Argentine claim to the Falklands then surely you must believe in our claim to Ireland, the Indian claim to Kashmir and the Israeli claim to Palestine - the Argentine claim is after all based on the fact that they live nearby and that they had a nebulous claim in the land many years ago.

 

[Pickman's model]

never had you down as a fascist... still you live and learn... one more boot boy bone head to add to the lists....

never had you down as a shitferbrains cunt, but - as you so originally point out - you live and learn.

 

[Pickman's model]

They are, hence 240+ million wasted on the recent BS enquiry

and the ballymurphy killings? where's that been dealt with? not to mention balbriggan.

 

[Pickman's model]

never had you down as a fascist... still you live and learn... one more boot boy bone head to add to the lists....

you said: land stolen by imperialistic actions should be returned.

i say: argentina was stolen by imperialistic actions. it should be returned.

but who should it be returned to? because the previous imperialists occupying it seem to have killed pretty much all the locals, and gave independence to the descendants of the imperialist army and planters. who should it be returned to, garf? who?

 

[coley]

and the ballymurphy killings? where's that been dealt with? not to mention balbriggan.

balbriggan?

 

[Pickman's model]

balbriggan?

Sack of Balbriggan

The assault on the village's population by the British Black and Tans based in the nearby Gormanston military barracks on 20 September 1920 was one of the more infamous acts of the Irish War of Independence. This event, known as the "Sack of Balbriggan", resulted in the destruction of 54 houses and a hosiery factory, and the looting of four public houses.[5] The attack received much international attention due to Balbriggan's position close to foreign news correspondents in Dublin. A subsequent delegation from the United States pledged to rebuild thirty homes in the village and a local factory.[6] Other deaths followed during the war, most noticeably those of Séamus Lawless and Sean Gibbons who were bayoneted to death by the British forces on 21 September 1920.[7] A plaque on Bridge Street in the town commemorates their murder.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balbriggan

 

[GarfieldLeChat]

If you believe in the Argentine claim to the Falklands then surely you must believe in our claim to Ireland, the Indian claim to Kashmir and the Israeli claim to Palestine - the Argentine claim is after all based on the fact that they live nearby and that they had a nebulous claim in the land many years ago.

yeah if you believe that then you're a fascist too...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands#History_to_1982

learn summit...

We left in 1744 and left a fucking sign... that's all a sign... saying this is our property....

geographically it's close to Argentinian we have no claims on it other than we took it off those who found it first, it's got fuck all strategic stand point and more importantly than any of this it's not part of the mainland of the UK so it's clearly and fucking obviously not part of the UK... by definition of several thousand miles of fucking sea water... unless the states china and every other continent is equally part of the UK, by the same simplistic measures...

 

[Pickman's model]

yeah if you believe that then you're a fascist too...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands#History_to_1982

learn summit...

We left in 1744 and left a fucking sign... that's all a sign... saying this is our property....

geographically it's close to Argentinian we have no claims on it other than we took it off those who found it first, it's got fuck all strategic stand point and more importantly than any of this it's not part of the mainland of the UK so it's clearly and fucking obviously not part of the UK... by definition of several thousand miles of fucking sea water... unless the states china and every other continent is equally part of the UK, by the same simplistic measures...

you don't know what a fascist is, you ignorant fuck

 

[Streathamite]

ah well then , you asked your mates . Thats pretty much sorted the issue for us all . Thanks.

no, wrong, I have an extensive network of contacts and in-law relatives in Argentina going back to 1990, and have been there more than enough times to get afairly good feel for popular 'street' opinion.
And, with respect, it's also given me a far better knowledge of the country and its' people than you have.

 

[Streathamite]

Argentina kicked out the Spanish and the British colonial powers . It is not and never has been a colonial power , any more than Kenya is . Your analysis would appear to be up the left .

yes, but they are still a settler nation of european origin, who built the nation on slavery and genocide of the original indigenous people. You know, a bit like the USA

 

[agricola]

yeah if you believe that then you're a fascist too...

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkland_Islands#History_to_1982

learn summit...

We left in 1744 and left a fucking sign... that's all a sign... saying this is our property....

geographically it's close to Argentinian we have no claims on it other than we took it off those who found it first, it's got fuck all strategic stand point and more importantly than any of this it's not part of the mainland of the UK so it's clearly and fucking obviously not part of the UK... by definition of several thousand miles of fucking sea water... unless the states china and every other continent is equally part of the UK, by the same simplistic measures...

At the risk of being called a fascist, the above post is very wrong. For a start, we left in 1774 and not 1744, and whilst a plaque was left the issue of soveriegnty was clearly known about because the first Argentine governor of the islands (albeit before he became governor) twice sought British permission to settle there. Secondly, we found and settled it before the Argentines. Thirdly, the argument that "its not part of the mainland of the UK" is absurd - the Falklands isnt part of the mainland of Argentina either, and as I said above that argument is daft - it legitimizes Kashmir, Ireland, Palestine etc.

 

[coley]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Balbriggan

Are you intending to bring Cromwell into this? or Longshanks sack ot Berwick?