AT&T says hackers stole records of nearly all cellular customers' calls and texts
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Scooby Doo didn't work tirelessly episode after episode to highlight the evil deceptive ways of land developers for you to slag him off like that.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
No it doesn't. The DoD's database doesn't include phone numbers so you can't link the two.
That database you linked to is so people can verify someone was actually in the military and their employment record, why the fuck would it want phone numbers as well? It also includes details of past and deceased personal whose phone numbers would be irrelevant to the DoD. FFS
WouldBe
Dislicksick
You're not explaining anything. Your adding 2+2 and getting 5.
bcuster
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Oh, and in case the English think that may've been spared from the damage that has been done to national security of the US:
www.corp.att.com
Clients across the UK can benefit from an industry-leading portfolio that includes Mobility, Network, Network Security, Cloud, Hosting, Voice, Unified Communications and Application services. These are implemented locally by experienced AT&T engineers and supported by a local account team.
Yay global corporations! They have our best interests at heart, right?
AT&T in The United Kingdom - Global Business
The UK is the headquarters for AT&T EMEA. AT&T serves over 57% of UK FTSE 100 companies. AT&T offers a comprehensive service portfolio to clients – helping them put their business in motion across a nationwide infrastructure. AT&T has three state-of-the-art Internet Data Centers (Birmingham and...
www.corp.att.com
Clients across the UK can benefit from an industry-leading portfolio that includes Mobility, Network, Network Security, Cloud, Hosting, Voice, Unified Communications and Application services. These are implemented locally by experienced AT&T engineers and supported by a local account team.
Yay global corporations! They have our best interests at heart, right?
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WouldBe
Dislicksick
They only do internet in the UK it was data from their mobile network that got hacked. 2+2=6.Oh, and in case the English think that may've been spared from the damage that has been done to national security of the US:
AT&T in The United Kingdom - Global Business
The UK is the headquarters for AT&T EMEA. AT&T serves over 57% of UK FTSE 100 companies. AT&T offers a comprehensive service portfolio to clients – helping them put their business in motion across a nationwide infrastructure. AT&T has three state-of-the-art Internet Data Centers (Birmingham and...
Yay global corporations! They have our best interests at heart, right?
bcuster
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Good. Maybe you lucked out. we sure didn'tThey only do internet in the UK it was data from their mobile network that got hacked. 2+2=6.
Do any UK cellular providers use the AT&T network?
WouldBe
Dislicksick
No.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
If a foreign gov wanted to know where US military were in their country and what they were doing they could get their mobile networks to record calls/texts from phones with US SIM cards so wouldn't need to hack into at&t's files, do reverse number lookups and cross reference with DoD databases.
Of course the military could forge SIM cards from the country the soldiers are serving in but if the foreign government is that paranoid you would have to make sure that the forged SIM cards came back as registered to a local and the registered addresses tie in and match billing addresses etc.
bcuster
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I'll have to admit, I don't understand this.If a foreign gov wanted to know where US military were in their country and what they were doing they could get their mobile networks to record calls/texts from phones with US SIM cards so wouldn't need to hack into at&t's files, do reverse number lookups and cross reference with DoD databases.
Of course the military could forge SIM cards from the country the soldiers are serving in but if the foreign government is that paranoid you would have to make sure that the forged SIM cards came back as registered to a local and the registered addresses tie in and match billing addresses etc.
The way it was actually done by the actual hackers seems simpler to me...
WouldBe
Dislicksick
The only thing the hackers got was a list of numbers called, time and duration just as you get on your phone bill.
Mobile networks already have the ability to locate a phone to within a few 10's of meters, that's how the police can try to find people if they go missing. A government could find where you are very easily without having to hack into anything.
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
You think it'd be simple to find names and addresses for millions of phone numbers, then carry out some rather cunning social engineering to discover where each of them works?
Wouldn't it be easier to send someone to to sit outside every door of every house in America, and follow everyone to work?
bcuster
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No, it wouldn't. Much easier to batch load the names into SCRA and you'll get your info immediately
bcuster
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I'm honestly done trying to explain the nature of the hack and the easily obtainable corollary info that can be derived therefrom. Read the f'ing articles
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
Can you tell me how you'd go about that? I'm assuming you're going to suggest cross referencing the numbers against a public telephone directory, yes? so why not just download the whole telephone directory, and cross reference every name in it against this database you mention?
bcuster
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Give a hacker, or even someone vaguely familiar with public data bases, your cell phone number & see how fast he or she can reveal a LOT about you. Go ahead, try it, I dare you...
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
What sort of hacker do you suggest? I'd consider myself a hacker, as I used to hack websites for fun, before I had a go at doing it legally for a while. Should I give my phone number to myself? Actually, scratch that. I'm worried what I might find out about myself.
bcuster
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That's kind of a funny post. You know the answer to your own question. Now imagine what someone with bad intentions and access to all sorts of data bases can do...
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
You're going way off-piste here. Any numbers in that obtained list that aren't in public phone books can't be cross referenced against names, so all the hackers have is data that can be obtained by anyone who can read a phone book. Sure, they could buy a database on dodgyweb, and cross reference numbers with that, but to what end?
I really think you're overthinking this, and it's the reason so many yanks have guns. You're all paranoid as fuck, thinking the whole world wants to break onto your house and steal your tinfoil hats.
bcuster
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Better safe than sorry. The magnitude & seriousness of the breach is discussed in BOTH of the articles I posted and liberally quoted in this thread. You're really an ornery one, Saul...
Saul Goodman
It's all good, man
I just have a different view than you do. I prefer logic to hysteria.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Yes, but it's a bloody convoluted process you fool. There are far easier ways to track foreign agents.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
If that's the DoD thing you linked to earlier it just confirms that a person served in the military, for how long and what corps they were in. It's the equivalent of Ancestry website for tracing family history. It doesn't tell you what their phone number is or where they are currently serving. Which you would know if you'd read the efing article you linked to.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
Verging on conspiraloonacy.
WouldBe
Dislicksick
You do realise that hacking isn't as simple as typing "Google" into your search bar and you're into all of Google's files do you?
Very basically it's like going to "urban75.com" and entering a name and password but you don't know the web name, user name or their password.
bcuster
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You’re obsessed with whether I’ve read the (two) articles I posted. I have and I’ve liberally quoted from them throughout this thread. I can’t make you understand. I can lead the horse, so to speak, to the water, but I can’t make him (you) drink in understandingIf that's the DoD thing you linked to earlier it just confirms that a person served in the military, for how long and what corps they were in. It's the equivalent of Ancestry website for tracing family history. It doesn't tell you what their phone number is or where they are currently serving. Which you would know if you'd read the efing article you linked to.
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