Argentina to fly the flag of Las Malvinas at London Olympics

[Deareg]

Irish nationalism unfortunately got mixed up with catholic protestantism bollocks.
Hence making two states infinitely worse.

It seemed like a good idea at the time

Falklands has out of a population of 2000 1 person who thinks it should be Argentinan but as he lives in Argentina so even the dup might think tats a minority view

I think that you will find it was Britain who used religion to divide the people.

 

[likesfish]

Quite probably but various fractions took to it enthusiastically and the Irish state climbed into bed and lubed itself up for the catholic church
Although it finally seems to have woken up from that particular bad dream.

 

[Deareg]

Quite probably but various fractions took to it enthusiastically and the Irish state climbed into bed and lubed itself up for the catholic church
Although it finally seems to have woken up from that particular bad dream.

You are right about the Irish state but I think that that had more to do with the type of people who wormed there way to the top of the political system, right wing conservatives.

 

[Spymaster]

britian created an artificial state to frustrate Irish democracy . It just drew an arbitrary red line around the areas where its loyalists constituted a majority , abandoning many of them in the process . The indigenous population of the Irish nation voted for an Irish republic and insisted Britian leave Ireland , twice . The British response was to refuse , and carve their country up into bantustans instead where both had to swear allegiance to the British crown .

And you think that this was a bad thing?

 

[likesfish]

You are right about the Irish state but I think that that had more to do with the type of people who wormed there way to the top of the political system, right wing conservatives.

The Irish question at the turn of the century was made of fail everybody seemed to take the worst possible decision given the options 1916 was stupid and the executions even more fucking stupid etc .

 

[Casually Red]

A What has that got to do with the falklands.
B No one on here thinks it was a good idea so your preaching to the converted though how you get a united Ireland now without more trouble is beyond me.

I'll point out again , Im replying to someone elses post on the subject . If youve a problem with the issue being raised , address it with the person raising it in the first place instead of criticisng me for replying.

 

[Casually Red]

And you think that this was a bad thing?

yes , and while im stating the obvious i think your a fucking wanker too .

Happy christmas

 

[Spymaster]

yes

Why?

Happy christmas.

 

[trampie]

britian created an artificial state to frustrate Irish democracy . It just drew an arbitrary red line around the areas where its loyalists constituted a majority , abandoning many of them in the process . The indigenous population of the Irish nation voted for an Irish republic and insisted Britian leave Ireland , twice . The British response was to refuse , and carve their country up into bantustans instead where both had to swear allegiance to the British crown . Thats a mockery of democracy , trying to invoke democracy as a justification for imperialism is totally hypocritical .

Good post.

 

[Spymaster]

No it wasn't.

 

[trampie]

Why do you think that Spymaster, Casual Red has summed up the historical question of Ireland nicely, it is the bottom line.

 

[dylanredefined]

This thread is about Argentina desire to steal some one else's land.Not how Britain has been messing with Ireland.

 

[Casually Red]

Quite probably but various fractions took to it enthusiastically and the Irish state climbed into bed and lubed itself up for the catholic church
Although it finally seems to have woken up from that particular bad dream.

britain created both states in Ireland when it partitioned the place and both states swore allegiance to the British crown , imperialisms deliberate intent was to annihilate an Irish republic and replace it with 2 sectarian bantustans instead .
It armed and backed both the northern loyalist faction and the southern free state Collins faction for that purpose and ordered them to go on the offensive against republicans. As neither state had any real democratic credentials and owed their respective existences purely to British imperial will and sectarian carve ups the resulting mess was quite inevitable .The Carnival of reaction predicted by James Connolly years earlier .
Meanwhile Catholic Bishops were denouncing and excommunicating Irish republicans ,thousands of whom were killed and many thousands more interned and exiled for opposing the set up in 1922/23. The southern state , and to an extent the northern state too, required the authoritariansim and social backwardness of the catholic hierarchy as a necessary agent of social control . Hence its elevation in the social sphere .

 

[Casually Red]

This thread is about Argentina desire to steal some one else's land.Not how Britain has been messing with Ireland.

british imperialism would appear to be an elephant in someones room

 

[Spymaster]

Why do you think that Spymaster ....

Because it's completely off topic and unrelated.

 

[likesfish]

Except nobody was oppressed by the colonisation of the Falklands unlike the settlement of Argentina which was facilitated by genocide.

 

[trampie]

Because it's completely off topic and unrelated.

Its not off topic at all, its Casually Red's thread, Falklands and Ireland were both parts of the Empire at one time.

 

[Spymaster]

Its not off topic at all, its Casually Red's thread, Falklands and Ireland were both parts of the Empire at one time.

The concept of thread ownership doesn't extend the right to change the subject as soon as you've had your arse whipped on the one you first introduced.

It's in the rules.

 

[trampie]

Casually Red can post as he sees fit.

 

[likesfish]

India and Pakistan and Canada and Australia were also part of the empire your pont caller?

 

[DownwardDog]

The Chief of Staff of the Argentine Navy has just been latered out of there and indicted for espionage...

http://www.buenosairesherald.com/article/88074/navy-head-steps-down-after-espionage-case

 

[paolo]

So, err, OP, did this actually happen, or was it just some made up shit?