Argentina to fly the flag of Las Malvinas at London Olympics

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Shared, therefore should the Falklands be shared between Britain and Argentina ?

Why? The Argentinians have never lived on the Falklands, except for a couple of months in 1982. And that didn't exactly go well for them

 

[trampie]

Torpedoing an enemy warship makes perfect sense to most.

Yes but is leaving the survivors in freezing waters after the sinking 'cricket' ?

 

[coley]

On what basis?

I am still waiting to find out on what basis SA is 'shared'

 

[coley]

Yes but is leaving the survivors in freezing waters after the sinking 'cricket' ?

Ask the Germans, they developed the technique.

 

[Deareg]

Torpedoing an enemy warship makes perfect sense to most.

Especially if there is a chance that the war you so desperately want might not happen.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

Yes but is leaving the survivors in freezing waters after the sinking 'cricket' ?

They could have swum home, according to some on here who seem to think the Falkland Islands are within spitting distance of Buenos Aires.

 

[Spymaster]

Especially if there is a chance that the war you so desperately want might not happen.

And even more "especially" if you accurately assume that the warship is trying to kill you:

Admiral Enrique Molina Pico, head of the Argentine Navy in the 1990s, wrote in a letter to La Nación, published in the 2 May 2005 edition,[25] that the Belgrano was part of an operation that posed a real threat to the British task force, that it was holding off for tactical reasons, and that being outside of the exclusion zone was unimportant as it was a warship on tactical mission. This is the official position of the Argentine Navy.[26]

 

[coley]

Especially if there is a chance that the war you so desperately want might not happen.

Really? is that why we were offering peace terms until June? no, if you pick a fight dont go crying when you lose.

 

[Deareg]

Really? is that why we were offering peace terms until June? no, if you pick a fight dont go crying when you lose.

I think that you are a bit confused.

 

[Spymaster]

I am still waiting to find out on what basis SA is 'shared'

Come come Coley!

They "shared" the fuck out of the region ......

 

[coley]

I think that you are a bit confused.

Various countries were trying to broker a peace agreement, Argentina wasnt interested.

 

[coley]

Come come Coley!

They "shared" the fuck out of the region ......

Sorry, I was referring to trampies comments re; South Africa.

 

[Yossarian]

its all about standards, in general terms some groups have got it and some havent.

A British Empire force with plenty of Welshmen in it took over a huge chunk of the world and, through killing and dispossessing natives, cleared the way for vast numbers of Welsh settlers, so maybe you should put away that halo.

 

[Deareg]

Various countries were trying to broker a peace agreement, Argentina wasnt interested.

What has that got to do with the post that I replied to?

 

[Spymaster]

Various countries were trying to broker a peace agreement, Argentina wasnt interested.

Be careful now.

 

[Spymaster]

Sorry, I was referring to trampies comments re; South Africa.

Oh sorry, I was assuming that SA=South America!

 

[coley]

What has that got to do with the post that I replied to?

You implied that the UK was hell bent on a shooting war when, in reality, there were plenty of people trying to broker a peaceful settlement.

 

[Spymaster]

They could have swum home, according to some on here who seem to think the Falkland Islands are within spitting distance of Buenos Aires.

They were "off the coast of Argentina"!

 

[Deareg]

You implied that the UK was hell bent on a shooting war when, in reality, there were plenty of people trying to broker a peaceful settlement.

That wasn't what I was replying to, but no, I am saying that Thatcher was hell bent on war.

 

[Spymaster]

You implied that the UK was hell bent on a shooting war when, in reality, there were plenty of people trying to broker a peaceful settlement.

I wouldn't go down this route if I were you.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

That wasn't what I was replying to, but no, I am saying that Thatcher was hell bent on war.

She may have been hell bent on a war, but not that one. The UK had about a fortnight's fight left in it when the Argentine surrender happened. To call the South Atlantic war a gamble is to massively understate the issue.

 

[coley]

That wasn't what I was replying to, but no, I am saying that Thatcher was hell bent on war.

i would have thought invading British sovereign territory was an act of someone "hell bent on war" rather than someone resisting such a move.

 

[trampie]

I am still waiting to find out on what basis SA is 'shared'

I asked 'Who should South Africa belong to ?' and you said 'the South Africans ?', yet that part of South Africa was largly uninhabited and the Afrikaners reached most of what is now South Africa just before the tribes came South from central Africa, therefore some Afrikaners claim that their people was there first and that the land is therefore theirs.​

 

[coley]

I asked 'Who should South Africa belong to ?' and you said 'the South Africans ?', yet that part of South Africa was largly uninhabited and the Afrikaners reached most of what is now South Africa just before the tribes came South from central Africa, therefore some Afrikaners claim that their people was there first and that the land is therefore theirs.​

Aye, but thats history, SA belongs to its present inhabitants, as does the USA, Canada etc.

 

[Spymaster]

I asked 'Who should South Africa belong to ?' and you said 'the South Africans ?', yet that part of South Africa was largly uninhabited and the Afrikaners reached most of what is now South Africa just before the tribes came South from central Africa, therefore some Afrikaners claim that their people was there first and that the land is therefore theirs.​

And in what bizarre way are you linking this to the Falkland issue?

 

[trampie]

A British Empire force with plenty of Welshmen in it took over a huge chunk of the world and, through killing and dispossessing natives, cleared the way for vast numbers of Welsh settlers, so maybe you should put away that halo.

The Welsh make up a very small % of Brits and are rarely incharge of making decisions as regards Welsh settlers there were very few of them as it is well known the Welsh are tied to their mothers apron strings, you wont find large Welsh ex pat communities in cities across the world as they like their home and families too much, the small amount that travelled went to work in the coal mines in Pennsylvania and before that some of them settled in the American colonies and fought the crown, lots of Welsh signatures on the decleration of independance, and lots of early Presidents had Welsh connections, some Welsh went to Patagonia to preserve the language and culture a few went to Australia the current Prime Minister of Australia is Welsh born and bred.
You wont find too many little Wales around the globe unlike little Italys or Irish settlements or China towns.

 

[coley]

"You wont find too many little Wales around the globe unlike little Italys or Irish" settlements or China towns.

Well, nice to see its not all 'doom and gloom'

 

[Yossarian]

You wont find too many little Wales around the globe unlike little Italys or Irish settlements or China towns.

You won't find many Englishtowns or Welshtowns in the US, Canada, Australia, or New Zealand - but you will find a fuck of a lot of people called Jones.

 

[Andrew Hertford]

I asked 'Who should South Africa belong to ?' and you said 'the South Africans ?', yet that part of South Africa was largly uninhabited and the Afrikaners reached most of what is now South Africa just before the tribes came South from central Africa, therefore some Afrikaners claim that their people was there first and that the land is therefore theirs.​

For what it's worth, the Afrikaners would be quite wrong to claim that and I'm not even sure many of them do. When the Dutch invaded what is now called the Cape province in 1652 it was inhabited by the Khoikhoi people (formerly called 'Hottentots') and had been for around a thousand years. The invasion meant the brutal ending of their culture.

I don't know what this has to do with the Falklands, but I suppose it's another illustration of the pointlessness of staking a territorial claim on a piece of land because of what some of your ancestors did centuries ago.

 

[Bahnhof Strasse]

The Welsh make up a very small % of Brits and are rarely incharge of making decisions as regards Welsh settlers there were very few of them as it is well known the Welsh are tied to their mothers apron strings, you wont find large Welsh ex pat communities in cities across the world as they like their home and families too much, the small amount that travelled went to work in the coal mines in Pennsylvania and before that some of them settled in the American colonies and fought the crown, lots of Welsh signatures on the decleration of independance, and lots of early Presidents had Welsh connections, some Welsh went to Patagonia to preserve the language and culture a few went to Australia the current Prime Minister of Australia is Welsh born and bred.
You wont find too many little Wales around the globe unlike little Italys or Irish settlements or China towns.

I think that you will find the Welsh were very active in South Africa.