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Argentina to fly the flag of Las Malvinas at London Olympics

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theyve been claimed by argentina since its independence from another competing colonial power in the region . As far as Argentina , and indeed the rest of latin america , is concerned they always have been part of argentina whether an imperialist power claimed them or not .

Yes. Argentina are Claiming. The UK holds sovereignty over the Falklands, and maintains legitimacy via the consent of its inhabitants.

its not their right to violate the sovereignty of a sovereign nation . Nobody has a right to do that .

I'm glad we agree.
 
yes , claims . Like all sorts of weaker countries had to when Britian held their territory and resources thanks to superior military technology as opposed to any legitmate right to do so .
 
yes , claims . Like all sorts of people had to when Britian held their territory and resources thanks to superior military technology as opposed to any legitmate right to do so .

This is just going round in circles. You don't respect the right of local communities to remain part of a nation that they have been part of for centuries. That is where we disagree. This conversation can go nowhere.
 
theyve never even fucking seen the nation , much less been a part of it . Theyre 8000 miles away . Until 1982 99.9% of British people never even knew they existed . They were part of fuck all .
 
nobody , i fully accept they were an integral part of the nation that never heard of them until 1982 and still thought even then it was somewhere off the shetlands . How could i have been so remiss ?
 
nobody , i fully accept they were an integral part of the nation that never heard of them until 1982 and still thought even then it was somewhere off the shetlands . How could i have been so remiss ?

I don't know where you get the idea that no-one in Britain had heard of the Falklands before 1982. Anyone with a bit of basic knowledge of geography would have been able to locate the Falklands. Even the Spanish name, though less widely known, would have been a fair question in a TV quiz show of the sixties or seventies.
 
no it shouldnt be . No more than any colonial loyalists should be used an excuse by an imperialist power to violate the sovereignty and plunder the resources of any country .

OK you've convinced me. Fuck people. Fuck democracy. All power to the strong arm of the state.
 
your notion of democracy is its confined to the small group of people on argentina territory who have allegiance to britian , who then have a veto over the wishes of everyone else who lives on argentinian territory for territorial unity . Much the same as it has always worked in Ireland . And youve a cheek to be talking about the strong arm of the state when one considers the military resources Britian has sent accross 8000 miles to uphold that minority veto .
 
your notion of democracy is its confined to the small group of people on argentina territory who have allegiance to britian , who then have a veto over the wishes of everyone else who lives on argentinian territory for territorial unity . Much the same as it has always worked in Ireland . And youve a cheek to be talking about the strong arm of the state when one considers the military resources Britian has sent accross 8000 miles to uphold that minority veto .

The 'veto' as you call it does not affect Argentinians. If it doesn't affect them then it's not their business.
 
The 'veto' as you call it does not affect Argentinians. If it doesn't affect them then it's not their business.

yes it does . Their sovereign resources are being plundred as a result . Its their territory and its their business what happens there , not the business of another country 8000 miles away .
 
falklands is 300 miles from argentina under CR rules we could reclaim ireland we owned it for hundreds of years its next door they have loads of houses they are not using.
the irish goverment make Dave and CO look competant:facepalm:
OK the Irish might not like it but theirs only a million or so of them so they don't count:rolleyes:
 
theyve never even fucking seen the nation , much less been a part of it .

Only a handful of Argentinians have seen the Falklands, and half of them are dead.

Theyre 8000 miles away .

So what? Does Australia own New Zealand then?

What you're saying is that the ancestors of a people who took their homeland by force and genocide, have an automatic right to land 300 miles away that few of their countrymen have ever set foot in, and none have settled.

By your logic Israel has legitimate sovereign claims to Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Cyprus, as well as large chunks of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iraq and Turkey. And America can reasonably claim Cuba, Mexico, Canada, and most of the northern Caribbean islands.

You're fucking nuts!
 
nobody , i fully accept they were an integral part of the nation that never heard of them until 1982 and still thought even then it was somewhere off the shetlands . How could i have been so remiss ?
This is the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland, not the uk of gb and ni and the falklands. The falklands are a british dependency not an integral part of the nation.
 
your notion of democracy is its confined to the small group of people on argentina territory who have allegiance to britian , who then have a veto over the wishes of everyone else who lives on argentinian territory for territorial unity . Much the same as it has always worked in Ireland . And youve a cheek to be talking about the strong arm of the state when one considers the military resources Britian has sent accross 8000 miles to uphold that minority veto .
In a similar way then a relatively small number of people on formosa exercise a veto over a billion chinese. I take it you would support the chinese in a bloody war against formosa / taiwan
 
ok then, pakistan can claim bradford . Many thousands of its nationals and descendants live there . Poland can claim huge bits of this country too .

You will persist with this moronic trope. There is no similarity whatsoever. Immigrants to this or any other country are effectively guests of the nation. Those born there probably citizens of that nation. When the British settled the Falklands nobody else owned them and there was no such nation as Argentina .
 
The last surviving indigenous people should have sovereignty over their land and not Johnny comelatelies, i was reading a post the other day about Wales having empathy for small nations and groups like the Maoris, the Palestinians, native American tribes, Wales even played a football international against Euskadi, who at the time were virtually unbeatable [dont think they have lost a game since] but Ryan Giggs scored the winner, the imperial powers of England, France, Spain and Germany wouldnt play the Basque's but we did, Wales rugby have just announced their third full tour of the Pacific Islands [Fiji,Tonga and Samoa], the first being a quarter of a century ago, do England, NZ, Oz do full tours of the islands ?, Wales will lose money touring the Pacific Islands but the Welsh feel a bond with other small nations and groups, there is a common bond between such peoples and Wales wants to extend friendships.

The imperialists on the other hand stick together just look at the likes of America, Israel and a London run Britain.
 
mel gibson never done a film about your oppression so fuck off
I think there is something you should know we dont get bullied in my neck of the woods.
Imperialists, colonialists, capitalists always labeling, always bullying, they dont like free speech and they are always rude, it marks them out.
 
I think there is something you should know we dont get bullied in my neck of the woods.
Imperialists, colonialists, capitalists always labeling, always bullying, they dont like free speech and they are always rude, it marks them out.

If mel gibson did do a film about welsh history which event would it be. Mel Gibson hates the jews and the english.
 
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