...and Yemen!
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littlebabyjesus
one of Maxwell's demons
This is the story of recent history. The Houthis, Taliban, Hizbollah, Hamas, even ISIS. These ugly forces don't appear out of nowhere, but again and again and again, Western policies are aimed specifically at crushing anything that hints at socialism or even social democracy, so they ignore, marginalise or persecute secular, progressive movements in any and all of the countries they interfere with. And they never learn their lesson. So here we are.
BristolEcho
Well-Known Member
Do you have any articles or links to this? I tried to have a quick look but couldn't find much likely due to me not writing the right things. Just asking as I'd be interested and I'm on another site where this side of it isn't being discussed.
klang
klang
I don't have time atm, am at work, but generally the unification of yemen in 1990 is worth looking into for context.
A quick link from zahirs post
Unification of Yemen, 1990
Introduction North and south Yemen were united into a single state - the Republic of Yemen - on 22 May 1990. This replaced the Yemen Arab Republic (YAR) in the north and the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen (PDRY) in the south. The union was not immediately successful and disputes broke...
al-bab.com
PTK
Paul Kegan
That is beautiful.
klang
klang
BristolEcho also look up events around the 94 civil warI don't have time atm, am at work, but generally the unification of yemen in 1990 is worth looking into for context.
A quick link from zahirs post
Unification of Yemen, 1990
Introduction North and south Yemen were united into a single state - the Republic of Yemen - on 22 May 1990. This replaced the Yemen Arab Republic (YAR) in the north and the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen (PDRY) in the south. The union was not immediately successful and disputes broke...
Yemeni civil war (1994) - Wikipedia
BristolEcho
Well-Known Member
Cheers!BristolEcho also look up events around the 94 civil war
Yemeni civil war (1994) - Wikipedia
en.m.wikipedia.org
klang
klang
bcuster, i don't tend to get caught up in passing posts on here, but i have to come back to this as it's been bugging me for a couple of days...
What, in your opinion, is 'the greater good of humanity'? Is the greater good living in excess whilst there are wars and famines in other parts of the world? Actively and passively benefitting and profiteering from ongoing wars and in-equality?
And on this note - how do you define humanity? Who is part of humanity and deserves to benefit from a globalised neo-liberal trade system? 1st world countries? The people of Palestine? Yemenis, iraqis? Syrians, kurds, somalis?
Who isn't part of humanity, who is excluded from wealth, and why?
Who is neutral? Are there neutral nations, or is neutrality down to the individual? Is it part of an ideology to buy into?
Who doesn't deserve the badge 'neutral', and therefor deserves to be bombed?
Christ, i hope you haven't thought this through!
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
I heard exactly this said in a Radio 4 interview with a businesswoman.
PTK
Paul Kegan
"Houthis Wage War on Christmas" could have been a headline.
klang
klang
To be clear - living standards are pretty low and have taken a nose dive for the vast majority of people over the last few years, all over the world, even in 'wealthier nations' and the 'developed world'. I don't believe in 'suffering for the greater good' and i don't want to be cold nor go hungry. Neither do i want my neighbours to experience hardship.
But current events won't fix things on a global scale, for the majority of people, in the short term, never mind mid- to long term.
But this is probably for another thread....
But current events won't fix things on a global scale, for the majority of people, in the short term, never mind mid- to long term.
But this is probably for another thread....
bcuster
Well-Known Member
Attacking neutral shipping is not the answer to any of the equity problems you describe. Doing so will only upset the current balance and create more suffering for the houthis
klang
klang
teqniq
DisMembered
I suspect the Houthis themselves will be mostly fine, at least in the area they control. The people in charge are usually fine. It's the really
poor people that are and continue to be at risk of starvation
bcuster
Well-Known Member
The yemenis who are being bombed by the USN and RN are suffering needlessly due to the irresponsible pirates who are disrupting neutral shipping
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Utter bollox.
PTK
Paul Kegan
The UK and the USA need not have bombed Yemen. The bombing killed people, but it will not stop Houthi forces attacking shipping. If the UK and the USA acted to stop the slaughter in the Gaza Strip, then the attacks on shipping by Houthi forces would cease. Perhaps Anglo-American imperialism should "jaw" rather than "war".
klang
klang
Ftr, a lot of very poor people have joined the houthis as mercenaries
klang
klang
In fairness, people in yemen do suffer due to military action against the houthis.
But, as ever, there is context.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
If they're being bombed by the raf or other western forces then it's the fault of Biden and sunak
klang
klang
Could you elaborate pls?
klang
klang
You brought up 'humanity' and 'neutral'. I asked you to define these terms for clarity.
