And next, Syria?
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planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Not strictly true.
Although Indonesia is the 'new' name (one which the Dutch didn't even like btw), even it's current borders can be largely seen to be drawn up or influenced from the Majapahit empire which didn't fold until the Muslims arrived in the 15th century. It was a Hindu country. This is why Bali is Hindu btw - they all got pushed down there by Islamic civilisation. The Dutch had very little influence until very late on (early 20th century). And because of the Majapahit empire this very diverse archipelago has always had a connection, people on remote islands do see themselves as (now) Indonesian. The country even has some motto or something, their version of e pluribus unum (I can't remember their words) 'one out of many' or some such.
And the old name for that archipelago btw was Nusantra. Fun fact. Jakarta is sinking so fast the new capital is going to move to Nusantra. Which is on Borneo.
An overview of the fall of Assad's regime
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As Assad Regime Falls, Syrians Celebrate — and Brace for an Uncertain Future
As more than five decades of Assad family rule come to an end, Syrians are cautiously paving a way forward.
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Larry O'Hara
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Dismembering is a graphic phrase: perhaps subliminally influenced by ongoing televised genocide. Seriously.
On the subject of dismemberment is this not what is happening in Syria now? By both Israel and Turkey.
I bear no will towards the Israeli population: and favour a secular democratic state.
The bottom line is Israel is illegally occupying an increasing number of countries. I am furious beyond measure at the craven complicity of the uk govt/media in all this. That is the issue for mev
The name is Nusantara (sp) btw, the old name for the western part of the archipelago. Not sure I agree with you regarding the Dutch influence being so recent as the VOC was there from circa 1600 in what is now Jakarta and in Maluku for the Nutmeg and other spices committing atrocity after atrocity. Dutch colonialism with it's caste and race based apartheid was pretty disgusting in Indonesia with massacres right up to independence and even the use of rearmed Japanese military to crush independence fighters.
Cannot recommend highly enough the so called 'Buru Quartet' of novels about Indonesia under colonialism by the great writer Pramodya Ananta Toer in particular the first two. Pramoedya Ananta Toer - Wikipedia
Report on schools reopening in Damascus.
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Syrian girls, boys return to school under islamist control
On Sunday, schools in the Syrian capital Damascus resumed classes for the first time in half a century without a dictator as president. Those in control now are Islamist rebels with a history of radicalism, but they have not yet imposed any Taliban-like restrictions, allowing both girls and boys...
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Cheers for the sp.
Yeah I know about the Dutch colonization of (some of) Java. What I meant was their extent of influence over the whole archipelago. I was replying to a point asserting Indonesians wouldn't see themselves as one if it wasn't for Dutch colonialism. There's a lot more to it than that.
teqniq
DisMembered
Thread of Israeli airstrikes from December 8th - 16th on alleged weapons/ammunition dumps in Syria:
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@QalaatAlMudiq: E. #Syria: an airstrike targeted moments ago the town of Mayadin (S. DeirEzzor province). Israeli airstrikes in #Daraa province - S. #Syria. S. #Syria: Israeli airstrikes in Suwayda province. Khalkha...…
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mojo pixy
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The dates on that thread are December 8th and 9th. One is from April 23rd! Nothing I can see there says Dec 12th, 13th, 14th, 15th or 16th. Again and again these "Israeli strikes" posts are getting endlessly recycled because .. well why not.Thread of Israeli airstrikes from December 8th - 16th on alleged weapons/ammunition dumps in Syria:
Thread by @QalaatAlMudiq on Thread Reader App
@QalaatAlMudiq: E. #Syria: an airstrike targeted moments ago the town of Mayadin (S. DeirEzzor province). Israeli airstrikes in #Daraa province - S. #Syria. S. #Syria: Israeli airstrikes in Suwayda province. Khalkha...…
teqniq
DisMembered
Threadrearerapp does not appear to capture the dates of the tweets (I did not know. this until I looked)
Here is the first Tweet which is actually labelled as 9/12/24 in the compiled thread:
Here is one from randomly in the middle of the thread 12/12/24:
Here is the last tweet with the date of the 16/12/24:
Where is your evidence that one of them is from April 23rd?
This isn't true. You can see the dates on the posts here. The massive explosion in Tartous was last night as is clearly stated. The attacks are ongoing.
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mojo pixy
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OK so the 23rd April (2022!) post is this:
And there's captions reading 'the aftermath', 'two days ago', 'three days ago', and no actual evidence that all the explosions were Israeli caused. Maybe they were, but it really looks like images and clips just being reposted from days ago. I'm looking for news stories about new Israeli air strikes and all stories I'm finding are dated 8/12, 9/12, 10/12 and 11/12, and all of the newest reports are now looking back at what happened the other day, that we already know about.
And there's captions reading 'the aftermath', 'two days ago', 'three days ago', and no actual evidence that all the explosions were Israeli caused. Maybe they were, but it really looks like images and clips just being reposted from days ago. I'm looking for news stories about new Israeli air strikes and all stories I'm finding are dated 8/12, 9/12, 10/12 and 11/12, and all of the newest reports are now looking back at what happened the other day, that we already know about.
Try this:
english.almayadeen.net
www.telegraph.co.uk
'Hiroshima in Tartus': Israeli strikes shake Tartus, martyrs reported
The most violent Israeli aggression on Syria, which targeted Tartus, on Monday at dawn, resulted in the killing and injury of civilians.
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Watch: Israeli strike in Syria causes ‘seismic’ explosion
‘Violent explosions’ send tremors the size of a 3.1 magnitude earthquake through Tartus
www.telegraph.co.uk
mojo pixy
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Try this:
'Hiroshima in Tartus': Israeli strikes shake Tartus, martyrs reported
The most violent Israeli aggression on Syria, which targeted Tartus, on Monday at dawn, resulted in the killing and injury of civilians.Watch: Israeli strike in Syria causes ‘seismic’ explosion
‘Violent explosions’ send tremors the size of a 3.1 magnitude earthquake through Tartus
Fair enough, thank you.
I suspect the size of the explosion was because it was a huge arms store.
Probably good that it's gone tbh. I wish all the world's weapon caches could be treated the same way.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Agreed; I think the I"D"F should be encouraged to attack all US weapon caches.
teqniq
DisMembered
I must apologise for my post in which I obviously believed this.
I understand the sentiment but the practical consequence of all this is that at some point the new government will be forced to stand up to Turkey and being disarmed isn't going to help.
mojo pixy
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HTS isn't going to do this, but I wouldn't rule out Israeli strikes against the SNA to support the Kurds.
mojo pixy
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At this point Israel is the absolute regional superpower so for anything to succeed in Syria right now it'll need Israel to be basically OK with it. More so IMO than Turkey, because though Turkey has the heft of NATO membership, that also comes with the burden of having to listen to the gang.
On the other hand Israel has its own massive internal problems and of course right at the moment nearly all policy is based on keeping Netanyahu out of jail. I do think beyond what it calls self-defence, Israel won't want anything to do in public with Syria. Under tables, and in the Private Sector, who knows.
tim
EXPLODED TIM! (Help me!!!)
And if those in charge piss off the British Government too much the latter will take over and change things ti their liking as they did in the Turk and Caicos Islands 1n 2009. It is a British colony.
PTK
Paul Kegan
Pedantic Note.
When European imperialism was in its pomp, the major imperialist states were called “powers”.
In the Cold War, the USA and the USSR seemed to be mightier than the “powers” had been, and were labelled “superpowers”.
A state that is the most powerful only in its region is certainly not a “superpower”.
The term “regional superpower” is a contradiction in terms. To be a “superpower” a state must be able to exert power all around the world, not simply in one region.
The State of Israel is a regional power.
When European imperialism was in its pomp, the major imperialist states were called “powers”.
In the Cold War, the USA and the USSR seemed to be mightier than the “powers” had been, and were labelled “superpowers”.
A state that is the most powerful only in its region is certainly not a “superpower”.
The term “regional superpower” is a contradiction in terms. To be a “superpower” a state must be able to exert power all around the world, not simply in one region.
The State of Israel is a regional power.
PTK
Paul Kegan
Most of these settlers went to Palestine after the end of the Second World War. If it is to be argued that settlers in the West Bank should be expelled from land which was taken from Palestinian Arabs, then should not the same logic be applied to those who settled on land from which people were expelled in 1948?
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