all roads lead to sedgley

[discokermit]

things have taken a weird turn!
after going through over five hundred relatives today took an unexpected turn, amongst all the miners and ommerers i discovered a posh branch. my sixteenth great grandfather was executed for treason and i might be related to churchill/princess diana/the plantagenets.

 

[discokermit]

an earl, a baronet, a lord of the manor in surrey, some of them born in castles, a colonel, knights of the garter, a chancellor of the exchequer, henry the sevenths standard bearer, sherrifs, constable of calais, ambassador to france, master of hunting, privy chamber member, all sorts of flotsam and jetsam.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

an earl, a baronet, a lord of the manor in surrey, some of them born in castles, a colonel, knights of the garter, a chancellor of the exchequer, henry the sevenths standard bearer, sherrifs, constable of calais, ambassador to france, master of hunting, privy chamber member, all sorts of flotsam and jetsam.

this is why i've never been all that keen on family research - the risk of finding someone disreputable...

 

[discokermit]

and a couple of members of parliament.

 

[discokermit]

this is why i've never been all that keen on family research - the risk of finding someone disreputable...

it all went wrong when my seventh great grandfather got my seventh great grandmother pregnant, ten and a bit months before they married. her very posh family (muschamp) had married into a family of tipton gentry, the jevons family, who i presume made a lot of money during the industrial revolution. their daughter met my iron working grandad, johnny webb, in tipton. then it all went to shit for them.

 

[Orang Utan]

an earl, a baronet, a lord of the manor in surrey, some of them born in castles, a colonel, knights of the garter, a chancellor of the exchequer, henry the sevenths standard bearer, sherrifs, constable of calais, ambassador to france, master of hunting, privy chamber member, all sorts of flotsam and jetsam.

castle wanker

 

[discokermit]

i have a twelfth great grandfather named agmondesham muschamp!

 

[discokermit]

 

[Orang Utan]

reclaim it, mate!

 

[discokermit]

. her very posh family (muschamp) had married into a family of tipton gentry, the jevons family, who i presume made a lot of money during the industrial revolution.

they were married at saint pauls cathedral in 1701.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

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"offers scope for DIY enthusiast"

 

[discokermit]

Betchworth Castle - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[discokermit]

my sixteenth great grandad, Thomas Browne (died 1460) - Wikipedia. born in 1402, executed for treason, 1460.

 

[discokermit]

reclaim it, mate!

it was built for this grandad, John FitzAlan, 1st Baron Arundel - Wikipedia

 

[discokermit]

my heritage seems to be ninety nine percent celtic labourer and one percent norman castle living cunt.

 

[Puddy_Tat]

it was built for this grandad, John FitzAlan, 1st Baron Arundel - Wikipedia

if i'm reading that right, then a few more generations back was king henry iii

when are you going for the fitting?

 

[discokermit]

if i'm reading that right, then a few more generations back was king henry iii

when are you going for the fitting?

it is time to claim my throne. Alan fitz Flaad - Wikipedia

Ernulf de Hesdin - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[discokermit]

so, my ancestors, the start of the stewart dynasty. lol!

 

[discokermit]

i worked it out, of the 1024 ancestors i have in the late seventeenth/early eighteenth century, one is norman bastard posh, one is tipton gentry posh and the rest are all working class or agricultural labourers.
obviously i was hoping to not find any trace of the normans. or the saxons for that matter. but overall that is a tiny percentage.

 

[nogojones]

I can't wait for the discokermit commemorative mug

 

[discokermit]

when i read that one of my g. grannies might have murded one of my coal mining g. grandads, i was very upset. now i have just read about one of my great grandads being executed with a blunt sword that took twenty two hacks to get through and it made me laugh out loud! these cunts are like the sopranos. posh people are awful. Edmund Fitzalan, 2nd Earl of Arundel - Wikipedia

 

[Edie]

my sixteenth great grandad, Thomas Browne (died 1460) - Wikipedia. born in 1402, executed for treason, 1460.

Mate surely when you get that far back, cos presumably for each generation you step back there are four possible grandparent lineages to potentially follow, by 16 generations haven’t you got to the point where everyone’s descended from Henry the Eighth or Attila the Hun anyway?

 

[discokermit]

now i can despise the middle classes from both sides! one silver lining.

 

[Pickman's model]

now i can despise the middle classes from both sides! one silver lining.

when i posted before i hadn't read the thread through but now i have i'm impressed with your research and the success you've had going back centuries when most people would struggle going back to 1800. i know my opinion weighs lightly with you, but it's an amazing piece of work.

 

[discokermit]

Mate surely when you get that far back, cos presumably for each generation you step back there are four possible grandparent lineages to potentially follow, by 16 generations haven’t you got to the point where everyone’s descended from Henry the Eighth or Attila the Hun anyway?

i think so. plus you only have to get one aristo in your tree and you are pretty much into all of them, the fucking inbreds. from cursory looks i seem to have gg parents from italy, france, welsh princes and brian boru. ancestry does a two week free trial if you wanna do your own and see!

 

[Edie]

i think so. plus you only have to get one aristo in your tree and you are pretty much into all of them, the fucking inbreds. from cursory looks i seem to have gg parents from italy, france, welsh princes and brian boru. ancestry does a two week free trial if you wanna do your own and see!

I still remember you saying being born working class was like winning the lottery of life, and I still fully love you for that comment possibly over a decade on

 

[discokermit]

when i read that one of my g. grannies might have murded one of my coal mining g. grandads, i was very upset. now i have just read about one of my great grandads being executed with a blunt sword that took twenty two hacks to get through and it made me laugh out loud! these cunts are like the sopranos. posh people are awful. Edmund Fitzalan, 2nd Earl of Arundel - Wikipedia

i just had some fun with my homophobic dad. "one of your great grandads killed the kings boyfriend!" i says, setting the trap. "he soon got another one" says my dad. "he did, another one of your great grandads!" says i. boom! have that.

 

[discokermit]

I still remember you saying being born working class was like winning the lottery of life, and I still fully love you for that comment possibly over a decade on

now, finding the tiny teensy bit of norman in me i have something to blame all my faults on. lazy? those fucking normans. feel like wildly riding round on a horse stabbing people? fucking normans.

 

[platinumsage]

You should work out how many people you need to kill in order to be next in line to the throne.

 

[Edie]

You should work out how many people you need to kill in order to be next in line to the throne.