Afghanistan: Mission Accomplished
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YouSir
Retired from Urban
Idris2002
canadian girlfriend
This morning Irish radio was claiming troops at the airport "fired in the air" to deter the desperate crowds. Afghanistan has gone to live on a farm in the country.Three stowaways fell to their deaths from the wheel shafts of an evacuation plane after takeoff a couple of hours ago..
MickiQ
In My Defence I was left Unsupervised
Question for someone who might know kebabking maybe? Those Apaches clearing the airport must have come from somewhere. They don't have that great a range do they? Did they come in aboard the C-17's? Are they going to take them out aboard the last aircraft to leave or just blow them up so they can take more people instead?
Or do they have some secret hideout in Afghanistan somewhere they can fly to and refuel?
Or do they have some secret hideout in Afghanistan somewhere they can fly to and refuel?
I was actually wondering where the fuck our massively expensive and underused sparkly new aircraft carrier is right now. Surely nearby?
Elpenor
Dancing as fast as I can
Afghanistan is a landlocked country, and overflying Pakistan / Iran may not be possible or desirable
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
I was wondering about this as well. Also how are the last troops going to get out? There doesn't seem to be any sort of perimeter to retreat to and evac from.
TopCat
Putin fanboy
Dunderheaded.
I'm aware it's landlocked but the Indian sea is pretty close to Kabul. You'd hope Pakistan would allow our planes to fly over right now.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
left guam several days ago
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
not from near guam they wouldn't
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
Three stowaways fell to their deaths from the wheel shafts of an evacuation plane after takeoff a couple of hours ago..
The desperation of the scenes in the airport are very upsetting.
planetgeli
There's no future in England's dreaming
Getting an aircraft carrier anywhere near landlocked northern Afghanistan might prove a tad difficult.
extra dry
Happy to be here
looks dangerous to me
kebabking
Not a Girly Swot, but I like them....
Some were already there, and some came in on the C-17's last week. They don't have the range to fly out on their own, so the sensible money is that they'll be destroyed in place as the last US aircraft leaves.
Sorry, I meant the Arabian Sea - and it looks within range to me.
spitfire
Walty McWaltface
How the hell that last aeroplane is going to be able to take off with all those people in the airport is beyond me. Grim.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
it's fucking 5000 or more miles away. even if it's making best possible speed (25 knots) it'll take days to get to the arabian sea.
time for a trip to specsavers
LDC
On est tous des pangolins
Yeah the potential for this to get very messy (even messier) is really high as time passes. I wonder if some negotiation with the Taliban to get them to secure the airport from civilians and people trying to leave might end up happening? Hope the troops don't end up firing on crowds of people flooding the airport, grim. And the last thing the evacuation will want is more planes unable to take off/land due to crowds of desperate people all over the runways.
SpookyFrank
A cheap source of teeth for aquarium gravel
Can we not just send in John Simpson again?
Then they should have turned it around days ago when this shitstorm was becoming apparent.
DownwardDog
Riding a Brompton with a power meter.
There is nothing on the HMS QE that has the 900km range to get to Kabul from the Arabian Sea - assuming Pakistan allow use of 'The Boulevard' west of Quetta.
Brainaddict
slight system overdrive
Hardly surprising the occupying forces couldn't organise a nation state when they can't even organise an evacuation.
Edit: this is a glib comment but there's something astonishing about the fact that large bureaucratic structures have not yet learned how difficult it can be to achieve any stated aim (or even state the aims) when working across multiple large bureaucratic structures (in which I include the occupying military structures, the civilian structures of occupying powers, the civilian and military structures in Afghanistan, NATO, the aid agencies, UN and so on). I don't really buy the idea that the reason the occupation has continued is because some people were making money out of it (as a certain section of left twitter seems to be going for). To some extent military power is just quite alluring to a certain sort of politician, but I think it's more to do with the vast amount of deception and self-deception that can occur within even one of these structures, let alone working across multiples structures. But what's so amazingly stupid about it all is that we know this happens, yet nothing was put in place to try and prevent the vast scale of the deception/self-deception.
Edit: this is a glib comment but there's something astonishing about the fact that large bureaucratic structures have not yet learned how difficult it can be to achieve any stated aim (or even state the aims) when working across multiple large bureaucratic structures (in which I include the occupying military structures, the civilian structures of occupying powers, the civilian and military structures in Afghanistan, NATO, the aid agencies, UN and so on). I don't really buy the idea that the reason the occupation has continued is because some people were making money out of it (as a certain section of left twitter seems to be going for). To some extent military power is just quite alluring to a certain sort of politician, but I think it's more to do with the vast amount of deception and self-deception that can occur within even one of these structures, let alone working across multiples structures. But what's so amazingly stupid about it all is that we know this happens, yet nothing was put in place to try and prevent the vast scale of the deception/self-deception.
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Bahnhof Strasse
Met up with Hannah Courtoy a week next Tuesday
I am surprised at how upsetting I am finding this, those poor fuckers there, so desperate to get out, their very lives do depend on getting out. Fucking tragic. What's fucking Bush & Blair got to say for themselves today, the evil cunts.
not-bono-ever
meh
requiring the taliban to secure the area would be humiliating for the US. By the look of it, the takib are not getting too involved in this airport criminal farce
Fair enough. I assume the americans have better range on their carriers?
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