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A third of male university students say they would rape a woman if there no were no consequences
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DotCommunist
So many particulars. So many questions.
with the added kicker of a professional rubbisher of rape claims weighing in,
worth remembering the comment section of local newspapers is the home of opinions that would get you a slap in polite company. These are the people who also ring into radio shows to have a rant. Because they get unnoficially no platformed everywhere else by the mechanism of 'low that fucking oddball'
Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
How DO I express my outrage though?! That has always been the question!
Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
This is true, but it still chips away at what used to be acceptable before their oddball opinions were presented within 2cm of a factual news item, albeit a badly written one.
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tofu eating wokerati
Just say it. Lots of people listening.
Poot
My wife thinks I work too hard
There really aren't. Not the ones you want to listen anyway. And trust me, I have a reputation for being "difficult" so I must be doing something right
Interesting comments here:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...woman-s-influence-alcohol-drugs.html#comments
EG:
"so what happens if both are drunk, will the same rule apply to men? dont be stupid of course it wont, the man will still be guilty, just look at the Ched Evans case, all three involved had been drinking,"
"So if a woman can claim that being drunk means she is not of sound enough mind to be able to give consent does that mean the same argument can be used to get off a drink driving charge? "Sorry judge I was drunk and not of sound enough mind to realise that I shouldn't be driving". Woman have to start learning to take more responsibility for their own actions in many of these cases."
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tofu eating wokerati
Interesting in that the comments show not only totally unsurprising misogyny but also ignorance of the law. Let's see if we can tell the difference between getting behind the wheel of a car and how you cope with some drunk hitting on you.
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wobbly
The post I quoted, that didnd't come accross as just expressing outrage. it came accross as a demand that we all did likewise. as Poot said, there's a limit to how much energy women have to deal with this kind of shit. and there's also a limit to how much someone can allow being angry at this shit to become part of their lives. cause we know it's shit, but we also have to live. and sometimes the choice is to let it pass by so we have the space and energy to deal with it in our own lives and to live the rest of our lives.
cause the only difference is that this is someone who can get an article written about them spouting off shit. cause victim blaming is business as usual.
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tofu eating wokerati
snippitude
*applause*
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Aye, I only have a limited amount of energy due to my disability, if I spent all my time being outraged over women's issues (and believe me I would love to be), I would be in full relapse most of the time, plus it wouldn't leave any energy left over for other issues like disability issues or helping people through the ATOS process.
We all do what we can with what we have.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
You're applauding victim blaming?
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tofu eating wokerati
God, no! I'm applauding the recognition of victim-blaming!You're applauding victim blaming?
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Just goes to show how easily and stupidly one can present on here. I am so angry about victim-blaming it never occurred to me that anyone could think I wasn't.
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wobbly
tbh, i don't think there's many people reading this thread that haven't already heard my opinions that the first thing we need to do to fix the system is educate the people involved in the legal process. it's people like that pratt who end up as judges in rape cases who blame the victims from the bench.
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wobbly
unsupprisingly, ti's a sensitive subject.
and one where a lot of us are more used to hearing victim blaming than support.
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tofu eating wokerati
Even on here? I haven't been following everything (despite dwyer's characterisation of me) but I'd have hoped for a bit more insight on here. Well, maybe not, and that's desperately sad because one would hope that brothers at least would be supportive. But oh, it's just like the old days.
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wobbly
the right cunts tend to get told to fuck off sharpish. but there are still cunts about. few of the usual suspects who do the seagull routine (shit and run, or rather fly off) or try to make it all about how it's our responsibility to educate them or just about them. but anyone being a real arsehole results in them meeting the sharp end of the FridgeMagnet banhammer. so here is better than most other places
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
no words!
'fairness, moderation and common sense'
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/it-not-rape-woman-drunk-5119029
and 39% of people in the poll agree with him.
He's 71, and is expressing a belief shared by a great many males of his generation despite 40-50 years of feminisms proving otherwise.
One expects that his past harbours quite a few instances of getting women drunk...
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Quite. When patriarchy controls the means of expression, then the weight of "the Establishment" view always gets brought down on the victim, and even on other people talking about it. So many women understand this sad truth that the majority don't bother to report sexual assaults, and what the majority of those who do report sexual assaults suffer at the hands of the media and the criminal justice system on top of being assaulted can be horrendously scarring.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
Those who should be listening, aren't. The lawmakers use the law to delay and defuse legislation. The media use rape myths to excuse rapists and blame women. The criminal justice system is institutionally-sexist from head to toe.
Those who are listening are mostly the powerless - those who can't effect change, so while "it's good to talk", that's all that happens, a bit of venting.
ViolentPanda
Hardly getting over it.
I am horrified at many of my generation !
Sorry
No need to apologise! Your horror is indication enough that you don't share their prejudice.
equationgirl
Respect my existence or expect my resistance
Another one...
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/feb/08/stanford-swimmer-yik-yak-campus-rape
This campus did a survey (in the article) and reckon that even though there were 25 sexual assualts/rapes reported in the year of the audit, they were estimated to be vastly under-reported by a factor of 12. That's 300.
http://www.theguardian.com/society/2015/feb/08/stanford-swimmer-yik-yak-campus-rape
This campus did a survey (in the article) and reckon that even though there were 25 sexual assualts/rapes reported in the year of the audit, they were estimated to be vastly under-reported by a factor of 12. That's 300.
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