A thank you to Brexiteers.
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Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
if you think about all the shit tories have swallowed over the years, things which even the most credulous conspiraloon would struggle to believe, you'll revise your post
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
They want to believe
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Seeing some Tories on SM continuing to pin all the blame for Doverpocalypse on the French policy to stamp all passports, claiming it to be unfair as Border Force don't do the same at Calais.
Raises some interesting questions about how UK authorities are able to tell if folk are over-staying etc.
Raises some interesting questions about how UK authorities are able to tell if folk are over-staying etc.
they could make it bigger by getting rid of some of the shops on the outside of passport control (like the 2nd M&S).
but it would be very expensive and rendered redundant when they bring in the €7 e-visa instead of stamping passports. so it'd be really nice if they didn't keep delaying that.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
there's 643 people employed in westminster they ought to take a close look at
On the first bit, I wonder if they could have helped it by a bit of planning:
The British government rejected a £33m proposal to double passport booths at Dover in 2020
They were warned that it would make queues at the port more likely, predictions which have played out of the last week.
www.thelondoneconomic.com
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yes, but it's not just planning, is it? The proposal to make it easier to leave the UK through Dover would have entailed the Brexiteer government accepting an idea from France (the EU) and funding it. It's clearly a dogmatic, ideological refusal rather than a lack of planning or plain incompetence.On the first bit, I wonder if they could have helped it by a bit of planning:
The British government rejected a £33m proposal to double passport booths at Dover in 2020
They were warned that it would make queues at the port more likely, predictions which have played out of the last week.
Agree. A relatively paltry sum too.
Arch Brexiteer admits Brexit causing delays at Dover
Queues at Port of Dover have now cleared after a weekend of disruption
www.standard.co.uk
Christ, it's not difficult to be honest occasionally, is it? Cruella is just insulting everyone's intelligence with her intransigence.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
A whole new notion of the Overton window of stupidityArch Brexiteer admits Brexit causing delays at Dover
Queues at Port of Dover have now cleared after a weekend of disruption
Christ, it's not difficult to be honest occasionally, is it? Cruella is just insulting everyone's intelligence with her intransigence.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Sure Overton would want the window closed
ska invita
back on the other side
as it was with the musicians visas etc, all avoidable
isvicthere?
a.k.a. floppybollocks
Down with examples you can say in words, eh? Just be-Leave in the vomiting frog.
ETA: is this really a tory MP, or (as I´m now suspecting) some kind of parody? (It´s hard to tell sometimes these days.)
The39thStep
Urban critical thinker
Been a parody for about 4 years but then so have the real Tory MPs
T & P
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Wow. Who would have thought that stopping European ID cards as valid travel documentation could have resulted in a massive decrease in numbers of European tourists visiting the UK? Good job that they constitute such a small proportion of foreign tourists who visit us; otherwise the hospitality industry would have felt the pinch…
amp.theguardian.com
Seriously though, what is the reasoning behind stopping ID cards as valid forms of identification? Is it to do with data sharing perhaps?
French and German tourists turn their back on Brexit Britain | Brexit | The Guardian
Industry leaders fear new entry restrictions and the UK’s tarnished image among some Europeans have caused a decline in EU visitors
Seriously though, what is the reasoning behind stopping ID cards as valid forms of identification? Is it to do with data sharing perhaps?
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Smokeandsteam
Working Class First
Good news. Was always a JRM fantasy, and one without the resource to deliver it.
The fatal flaw however was the requirement to cut Parliamentary MPs oversight out of the process. An undermining of the democratic process that the EU would have been proud of…
Doppelgänger
There's only one of me!
Apparently it was to do with the fact ID cards are easier to forge.
That said the newest ones all use biometric data and are as secure as a passport, so I think this was just a dumb move by the British government to facilitate as hard a Brexit as possible.
Gone are the days of the Dutch, Belgian and French school trips coming over for day trips to places like Canterbury. Who needs these cultural exchanges anyway, it only goes to highlight the greater inequalities anyway?
teqniq
DisMembered
The Financial Times has done an article on this and it seems to be pretty crazy, Home office out of control:.....Gone are the days of the Dutch, Belgian and French school trips coming over for day trips to places like Canterbury. Who needs these cultural exchanges anyway, it only goes to highlight the greater inequalities anyway?
European school groups describe ‘Kafkaesque’ visa process for UK visits
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
It's taking back control of our borders, innit?
philosophical
Well-Known Member
25th Anniversary of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement today.
As a direct result of the vote to leave there is no functioning local administration in Northern Ireland for the past 14 months.
The Lexiter voters on here may strut and pose and sound off about a secret plan they always had for a United Ireland.
Those who voted leave will continue to try to retrofit a justification with regard to Ireland, I don’t buy it, in my view leave voters are all nasty self regarding bastards who tap in to centuries old aspects of English oppression, of ‘foreigners’ and especially oppression of what they probably regard as the upstart colony they call Ireland.
As a direct result of the vote to leave there is no functioning local administration in Northern Ireland for the past 14 months.
The Lexiter voters on here may strut and pose and sound off about a secret plan they always had for a United Ireland.
Those who voted leave will continue to try to retrofit a justification with regard to Ireland, I don’t buy it, in my view leave voters are all nasty self regarding bastards who tap in to centuries old aspects of English oppression, of ‘foreigners’ and especially oppression of what they probably regard as the upstart colony they call Ireland.
andysays
Love and solidarity
For someone who bangs on constantly about the GFA, you seem not have a clear idea of what it has actually meant in practice.
Good Friday Agreement: Does the peace deal still work?
But some uncomfortable facts are hard to airbrush. For nine of the 25 years since the Good Friday Agreement was signed Stormont has been shut down. It is essentially a political brake just waiting to be pressed. But that is what it had to be to win over reluctant power-sharers back in 1998.
The politicians of NI are perfectly capable of disrupting functioning local administration themselves, without even the figleaf of an excuse provided by the Brexit referendum or even the NI protocol
isvicthere?
a.k.a. floppybollocks
Also known as delivering on the will of the British people.
philosophical
Well-Known Member
Like yeah.
The GFA, shouldn’t have bothered eh?
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