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A thank you to Brexiteers.
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Signing the CPTPP deal overnight, Badenoch is pursuing the acceleration of neoliberalism prize that the Brexiteers always had their eyes on. The shape of things to come.
bimble
floofy
The telegraph rolling in ecstasy, saying this is the moment that means this country can now never rejoin the EU because
"The UK has now made a choice about whether it wants a world of regulatory harmonisation or one of regulatory competition. Competition is the most powerful force known to man to create wealth and increase productivity and economic growth. "
All hail the race to the bottom, for maximum profit.
idk if its literally true about this meaning rejoin is out of the question for ever but he has a point, once this beds in divergence from the laws of the continent next door will become a real thing, as a member of the Eu it would not have been possible to agree to the terms of this would it.
"The UK has now made a choice about whether it wants a world of regulatory harmonisation or one of regulatory competition. Competition is the most powerful force known to man to create wealth and increase productivity and economic growth. "
All hail the race to the bottom, for maximum profit.
idk if its literally true about this meaning rejoin is out of the question for ever but he has a point, once this beds in divergence from the laws of the continent next door will become a real thing, as a member of the Eu it would not have been possible to agree to the terms of this would it.
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brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
I can see why the Randian extremists are pleased but, in reality, trade agreements can be un-made (as we have seen) so I don't think it's quite as cut and dried as they cast it.
bimble
floofy
Yes but its the first real concrete divergence, from eu standards, and a legal framework for workers rights goes deeper & is harder to un-do than allowing a super strong vacuum cleaner or a straight banana isn't it.
brogdale
Coming to terms with late onset Anarchism
Yes, for sure; I can see why the randist loons are very pleased with themselves.
A dark day for their fellow travellers.
bimble
floofy
This new trade agreement means a whopping 0.08% of growth to the uk economy over ten years though, so its well worth it.
ska invita
back on the other side
dropping standards will break the new northern ireland deal though - theres a big reality crunch yet to hit all this i expect
Yossarian
Get thee behind me, Santa
For the first time, a major G7 country has chosen to accede to a regional grouping not because it is part of that region but rather because the agreement represents the most advanced and deeply liberalising agreement based on mutual recognition, equivalence and adequacy.
Yeah, suck on that all you other G7 losers who join regional trade groupings just because you're in that region and do most of your trading with countries in it.
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
you don't point out that that will double uk economic growth over the next decade.
isvicthere?
a.k.a. floppybollocks
Indeed. I feel so foolish now for having voted Remain.
bimble
floofy
All of these things are great obviously but I think my favourite is Adequacy, who amongst us hasn’t dreamt of such a lofty ideal.
isvicthere?
a.k.a. floppybollocks
It says a lot about the current crop of tory con-artists, chancers and incompetents that "adequacy" represents a vertiginous ideal to be aspired to.
Travellers stranded in Dover following ‘critical incident’
The Port of Dover said on Saturday morning that coach traffic heading to France was suffering ‘significant delays’
www.standard.co.uk
T & P
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I think it’s outrageous that our arrogant and vindictive European so-called partners are subjecting people to border checks just because the UK has left the EU.Travellers stranded in Dover following ‘critical incident’
The Port of Dover said on Saturday morning that coach traffic heading to France was suffering ‘significant delays’
Reminds me of when I decided to cancel my Sky subscription, and afterwards the bastards scrambled the sport channels, and refused to let me watch live Premier League matches for free. How petty can you get?
ska invita
back on the other side
Dover border regime not even yet implemented. Keeps being pushed back. Was meant to be May 2023, now "late 2023"
ska invita
back on the other side
Genuinely interesting little piece here - disastrous really
www.theguardian.com
if you cant be bothered to read the article, highlights are
Key point 1
Obama wanted to throw a friendly arm around Pacific countries threatened by China’s increasingly aggressive attitude to its neighbours – or, looked at another way, maintain open markets for US goods and services across south-east Asia in opposition to Xi Jinping’s Belt and Road investment initiative. Joe Biden, despite having control of Congress, refused to consider reopening talks about US membership, paving the way for China to apply in 2021.Thankfully for Biden, Britain’s application preceeded Beijing’s by six months, putting the UK ahead in the queue; quickly it became apparent that Britain’s role could be to help block China’s entry to the CPTPP without the US ever needing to join.
Key point 2
In the same way that Margaret Thatcher’s sale of state assets – from council housing to essential utilities – denied Labour the means to directly influence the economy without spending hundreds of billions of pounds renationalising those assets, so global trade deals undermine Labour’s promise to use the state to uphold workers’ rights and environmental protections.
Secret courts form the foundation stone of most trade deals and allow big corporations to sue governments when laws and regulations change and deny them profits.
Badenoch’s civil servants say they are comfortable with the investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS) tribunal system because the UK government has never lost a case. However, a government that wanted to push ahead at a faster pace with environmental protections, carbon taxes, or enhanced worker’s rights might find themselves on the wrong end of a court judgment.
...
That is why the EU parliament has forced Brussels to ban ISDS clauses from future trade deals.
Pacific trade deal is more useful to Joe Biden than it is to the UK’s economy
Hailed by Tory MPs as a Brexit benefit, CPTPP membership actually turns the UK into a willing pawn in Washington’s geopolitical game
if you cant be bothered to read the article, highlights are
Key point 1
Obama wanted to throw a friendly arm around Pacific countries threatened by China’s increasingly aggressive attitude to its neighbours – or, looked at another way, maintain open markets for US goods and services across south-east Asia in opposition to Xi Jinping’s Belt and Road investment initiative. Joe Biden, despite having control of Congress, refused to consider reopening talks about US membership, paving the way for China to apply in 2021.Thankfully for Biden, Britain’s application preceeded Beijing’s by six months, putting the UK ahead in the queue; quickly it became apparent that Britain’s role could be to help block China’s entry to the CPTPP without the US ever needing to join.
Key point 2
In the same way that Margaret Thatcher’s sale of state assets – from council housing to essential utilities – denied Labour the means to directly influence the economy without spending hundreds of billions of pounds renationalising those assets, so global trade deals undermine Labour’s promise to use the state to uphold workers’ rights and environmental protections.
Secret courts form the foundation stone of most trade deals and allow big corporations to sue governments when laws and regulations change and deny them profits.
Badenoch’s civil servants say they are comfortable with the investor-state dispute settlement (ISDS) tribunal system because the UK government has never lost a case. However, a government that wanted to push ahead at a faster pace with environmental protections, carbon taxes, or enhanced worker’s rights might find themselves on the wrong end of a court judgment.
...
That is why the EU parliament has forced Brussels to ban ISDS clauses from future trade deals.
ska invita
back on the other side
We need a Lexcptppit campaign
I wonder if there'll be reprecussions if UK blocks China
I wonder if there'll be reprecussions if UK blocks China
Not to worry. Next year, all these school coach parties currently backed up on the motorway can go to Brunei instead.
DJWrongspeed
radio eros
As ever, Simon Calder just tells it how it is regarding Dover in the Independent.
He points out that the slim strip of Dover was never meant to be a place to do all this border checking stuff. It will only get worse.
He points out that the slim strip of Dover was never meant to be a place to do all this border checking stuff. It will only get worse.
isvicthere?
a.k.a. floppybollocks
Dover officials dismiss Suella Braverman’s claim that queues ‘not caused by Brexit’
Things have been ‘very smooth’ at border since Brexit, claims home secretary
www.independent.co.uk
Braverman opposing empirical reality as hard as she does basic decency.
ska invita
back on the other side
As mentioned this is the same at St Pancras Eurostar, too late to make it any bigger now, and why the queue goes out the station and around the block at holiday times
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
Never been like that at my holiday times
Pickman's model
Starry Wisdom
C4u. They might also try telford
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