A thank you to Brexiteers.

[Pickman's model]

You either accept that Brexit has accelerated the UK's economic decline or you don't; I'm just confused about what view you take on that and, if so, whether that it is a price worth paying for the benefits that you perceive.

Your confusion is priceless

 

[Pickman's model]

7 years since 2016 and all the proposed benefits have fallen by the wayside and north ireland is still a non functioning political mess

and still people go on about Planet remain

tbf remain side said it was a bad idea and nothing from the Leave side or resulting from the uk leaving has change that idea


without europe itself falling apart is their any postive outlook

Yeh we were all hoping for the dissolution of the United Kingdom and somehow that's not happened yet

 

[Ax^]

hmm some of the leave vote saw a dissolution of europe first ...

 

[brogdale]

Never mind, after yesterday's gloomy data for the Brexit faithful, today 30p Lee has some more cheering news from the Express...fill yer boots Brexit fans...

 

[bimble]

Every now and again I remember that we haven’t even started implementing any checks on imports from the eu, that’s been kicked into the grass for years now. Coming later this year they reckon, and will definitely not be a shitshow.

Food companies to foot bill for Brexit border posts under new plans

The plans emerged today in the governments new border plan

www.thegrocer.co.uk

 

[brogdale]

Every now and again I remember that we haven’t even started implementing any checks on imports from the eu, that’s been kicked into the grass for years now. Coming later this year they reckon, and will definitely not be a shitshow.

Food companies to foot bill for Brexit border posts under new plans

The plans emerged today in the governments new border plan

www.thegrocer.co.uk

That's when those 'wavering' EU states will look at the UK, see our booming sovereignty, and really kick-start their plans to leave.

 

[Pickman's model]

hmm some of the leave vote saw a dissolution of europe first ...

Still waiting for the dissolution of Britain first

 

[isvicthere?]

Never mind, after yesterday's gloomy data for the Brexit faithful, today 30p Lee has some more cheering news from the Express...fill yer boots Brexit fans...

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Meanwhile in the world of empirical reality.....

People broadly view the EU favorably, both in member states and elsewhere

Across 24 countries surveyed, a median of 66% give the EU a positive rating, while 29% give it a negative one.

www.pewresearch.org

(This is from six months ago, and I wonder if the 68% of Britons who favour the EU has increased since then.)

 

[brogdale]

talking of which...we can keep out German punks now!

It's all win, isn't it?

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Update; their crime, apparently, was to tell the truth about their livelihoods.
(Not) welcome to brexit britain

 

[Pickman's model]

Meanwhile in the world of empirical reality.....

People broadly view the EU favorably, both in member states and elsewhere

Across 24 countries surveyed, a median of 66% give the EU a positive rating, while 29% give it a negative one.

www.pewresearch.org

(This is from six months ago, and I wonder if the 68% of Britons who favour the EU has increased since then.)

if you look carefully you'll see the actual poll was undertaken about a year ago

 

[teqniq]

More musicians denied visas, this time from Ukraine. What an absolute shitshow and an embarrassment the UK has become:

Ukrainian orchestra’s key members refused visas to play in UK

Promoter claims ‘catastrophe’ has cost it more than £88k and accuses British government of hypocrisy

www.theguardian.com

 

[Chilli.s]

A distinctly lower number of european tourists this year I think. Makes for a less cosmopolitan feel too

British musicians living in France said that their touring had been made far more difficult, it was only a fleeting conversation so light on detail but still first hand experience of very negative

A young relative can only work for a couple of months (agriculture) then has to leave France

We have lost so much, and all for a silly idea of "taking back control"

 

[pseudonarcissus]

Murder of the Orient Express

Whodunnit?

 

[TopCat]

25th Anniversary of the Belfast (Good Friday) Agreement today.
As a direct result of the vote to leave there is no functioning local administration in Northern Ireland for the past 14 months.
The Lexiter voters on here may strut and pose and sound off about a secret plan they always had for a United Ireland.
Those who voted leave will continue to try to retrofit a justification with regard to Ireland, I don’t buy it, in my view leave voters are all nasty self regarding bastards who tap in to centuries old aspects of English oppression, of ‘foreigners’ and especially oppression of what they probably regard as the upstart colony they call Ireland.

More to do with the DUP not wanting a republican first minister.

 

[Ax^]

tbf someone did bung the dup 1 billion to signed up to something they were always going to disagree with

 

[teqniq]

From March 24th, but I suspect that doesn't make it any less relevant:

Brexit Fueled UK Food Price Surge, Says BOE Rate-Setter

 

[Boudicca]

I wanted to buy a tailgate awning from a Dutch company but they no longer delivery to the UK. They did previously as I bought a different one from them a few years back.

I queried it but was told they 'only deliver to Europe'....

 

[krtek a houby]

Yeh, people like you

He's well marinaded now.

 

[Smokeandsteam]

From March 24th, but I suspect that doesn't make it any less relevant:

Brexit Fueled UK Food Price Surge, Says BOE Rate-Setter

Is there any Europhile who Planet Remain has an issue with politically?

"Catherine Mann is a Professor of the Practice at Brandeis University. She contributes to the research program of The Productivity Institute and is a Science Advisor to the European Investment Bank. She is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the American Economic Association, among others. Previously she was Chair of the Economic Advisory Committee of the American Bankers Association, a member of the Executive Board of the Committee on the Status of Women in the Economics Profession, on the Board of the National Association for Business Economics, and of the advisory committees of the Federal Reserve Banks of Chicago, Boston, and New York.

Prior to her appointment, she was the Global Chief Economist at Citibank (2018 to 2021) and the Chief Economist, Head of Economics Department, and G20 Finance Deputy at the OECD (2014 to 2017). Previous to these, she was Rosenberg Professor of Global Finance at Brandeis University, Senior Fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, and Assistant Director in the International Finance Division at the Federal Reserve Board"

 

[Pickman's model]

He's well marinaded now.

and should be thrown in the bin as good for nothing

 

[Pickman's model]

Is there any Europhile who Planet Remain has an issue with politically?

"Catherine Mann is a Professor of the Practice at Brandeis University. She contributes to the research program of The Productivity Institute and is a Science Advisor to the European Investment Bank. She is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the American Economic Association, among others. Previously she was Chair of the Economic Advisory Committee of the American Bankers Association, a member of the Executive Board of the Committee on the Status of Women in the Economics Profession, on the Board of the National Association for Business Economics, and of the advisory committees of the Federal Reserve Banks of Chicago, Boston, and New York.

Prior to her appointment, she was the Global Chief Economist at Citibank (2018 to 2021) and the Chief Economist, Head of Economics Department, and G20 Finance Deputy at the OECD (2014 to 2017). Previous to these, she was Rosenberg Professor of Global Finance at Brandeis University, Senior Fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, and Assistant Director in the International Finance Division at the Federal Reserve Board"

i'm not seeing 'europhile' there but 'technocrat who likes large salaries'

 

[The39thStep]

i'm not seeing 'europhile' there but 'technocrat who likes large salaries'

Role model

 

[Pickman's model]

Role model

i suppose she might be, for someone else

 

[Smokeandsteam]

i'm not seeing 'europhile' there but 'technocrat who likes large salaries'

How about "is there any technocrat who sometimes acts as a mouthpiece for the interests of bankers and the ECB who Planet Remain has an issue with politically"

 

[Pickman's model]

How about "is there any technocrat who sometimes acts as a mouthpiece for the interests of bankers and the ECB who Planet Remain has an issue with politically"

the england and wales cricket board?

 

[gosub]

the england and wales cricket board?

Bloody foriegners nicking our acronyms. It's not cricket

 

[StakerOne]

hmm some of the leave vote saw a dissolution of europe first ...

How could the dissolution of Europe come about? Or are you making the same tired old arrogant claim that the EU and Europe are one in the same?

 

[StakerOne]

A distinctly lower number of european tourists this year I think. Makes for a less cosmopolitan feel too

British musicians living in France said that their touring had been made far more difficult, it was only a fleeting conversation so light on detail but still first hand experience of very negative

A young relative can only work for a couple of months (agriculture) then has to leave France

We have lost so much, and all for a silly idea of "taking back control"

I don't care. It doesn't affect me.

 

[teqniq]

Is there any Europhile who Planet Remain has an issue with politically?

"Catherine Mann is a Professor of the Practice at Brandeis University. She contributes to the research program of The Productivity Institute and is a Science Advisor to the European Investment Bank. She is a member of the Council on Foreign Relations and the American Economic Association, among others. Previously she was Chair of the Economic Advisory Committee of the American Bankers Association, a member of the Executive Board of the Committee on the Status of Women in the Economics Profession, on the Board of the National Association for Business Economics, and of the advisory committees of the Federal Reserve Banks of Chicago, Boston, and New York.

Prior to her appointment, she was the Global Chief Economist at Citibank (2018 to 2021) and the Chief Economist, Head of Economics Department, and G20 Finance Deputy at the OECD (2014 to 2017). Previous to these, she was Rosenberg Professor of Global Finance at Brandeis University, Senior Fellow at the Peterson Institute for International Economics, and Assistant Director in the International Finance Division at the Federal Reserve Board"

If the 'planet remain' is directed at me you can fuck the fuck off. . I have already clearly stated my original position a number of times and that to repeat myself again is that I was persuaded by the Lexit arguments made on here but in the end abstained because of the right-wing racist agenda that drove the whole thing from the top. Any chance of of a credible Lexit was lost when Corbyn lost the last GE due the machinations largely of a hostile media and the right wing of the PLP. You have no credible plans, nothing, and what we have now is a complete shitshow. In all honesty it would have been better if we had stayed in rather than what we have now.

 

[teqniq]

I see shit for brains has weighed in as well. Cue pages of meaningless bollox.